[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

So you admit that human emissions have a measurable effect then? 

HoolaHoopMan

Hear hear folks of OT, Hokie has finally admitted that humans have at least a MINIMUM, yet measurable effect, on our climate!!!  

Its true that progress is slow but it can happen.  Think I might tear up a bit here. 

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"] Man-made global warming was over-hyped and it's impacts are minimal. The data shows that. HoolaHoopMan

So you admit that human emissions have a measurable effect then? 

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="theone86"]

Previous IPCC models estimate rises in CO2 emissions, current models revise those estimates.  Lowered estimates of carbon emissions=less warming.

Tempature has not been flat, this claim has been disproven before.

theone86

The IPCC is finally having to admit this and their models were way off. CO2 isn't nearly as influential as thought.

I never said CO2 levels stopped rising, I said their rise has been less than previously predicted.  If previous models estimated the rise in CO2 to be by a factor of ten and new models by a factor of five then the rise in emissions has been less than previously thought and their estimates on eventual warming will be lower.  

And they were still way off. CO2 simple isn't as influential as they once thought.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

Interesting graph showing how off the IPCC predictions have been:

HoolaHoopMan

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

In other words its nothing more than scientists including new data sets to improve climate models for more accurate predictions in the future, while simultaneously still holding true to man made emissions having a measureable effect.  

Go home Hokie, science isn't your forte, or keeping bets on leaving when you're dead fvcking wrong either. 

HoolaHoopMan

The science is catching up to their past doom and gloom predictions which is a good thing.

And they could no longer ignore the elephant in the room.

Hokie, half of the links you provided are op-eds or blogs.  Hell even the telegraph article you posted still says the IPCC will conclude that man made global warming is real, even in spite of the new trends being lower than expected.  

Are you still saying that man made global warming is made up?  If you're so sure you should bet your account again.  You were oh so right about the election, amirite?

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="theone86"]Three, how are these figures affected by current efforts to reduce carbon emissions?  This could be a case of the chicken or the egg.  Yes, former predictions may be more dire than current predictions, but there has been a growing movement to reduce carbon emissions in recent years, one that was already going on when the initial studies were done, so we could be seeing more optimistic predictions as a result of efforts to reduce carbon emissions.  This shouldn't be "oh, things are getting better so we can all stop worrying about it now," this should be "oh, things are getting better, that means we've been doing a good job reducing carbon emissions and should continue down this path."theone86

Thus, the IPCC had to admit they overestimated CO2 influence on climate.

Previous IPCC models estimate rises in CO2 emissions, current models revise those estimates.  Lowered estimates of carbon emissions=less warming.

Tempature has not been flat, this claim has been disproven before.

The IPCC is finally having to admit this and their models were way off. CO2 isn't nearly as influential as thought.

Interesting graph showing how off the IPCC predictions have been:

Three, how are these figures affected by current efforts to reduce carbon emissions?  This could be a case of the chicken or the egg.  Yes, former predictions may be more dire than current predictions, but there has been a growing movement to reduce carbon emissions in recent years, one that was already going on when the initial studies were done, so we could be seeing more optimistic predictions as a result of efforts to reduce carbon emissions.  This shouldn't be "oh, things are getting better so we can all stop worrying about it now," this should be "oh, things are getting better, that means we've been doing a good job reducing carbon emissions and should continue down this path."theone86

Thus, the IPCC had to admit they overestimated CO2 influence on climate.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

It's hilarious that you would quite Feynman, because if you repeated your nonsense to him, he would destroy you intellectually.

jimkabrhel

You really don't get it do you: predictions change when new information if found and new models are made. First you put too much stock in absolutes as a skeptics, then you refuse to change when the science does. You pick out parts that support your argument and don't lool at the whole picture. 

Honestly, take a science course or two and then try to form coherent arguments.

Will they update their theory...sure. But they admitted they were wrong for all these years and CO2 isn't nearly as influential as they once thought.

These people admitting they were wrong in terms of man-made global warming and CO2 is a big deal. They've been pushing doom and gloom due to man-made global warming for years.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Sure it's possible. It's also possible that that's the case for our concept of gravity as well.

jimkabrhel

-Nobel Laureate Richard P. Feynman

It's hilarious that you would quite Feynman, because if you repeated your nonsense to him, he would destroy you intellectually.