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#1  Edited By KC_Hokie
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@deeliman said:

@MakeMeaSammitch said:

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@KC_Hokie: That graph stops at 1855...

How convinient Hokie, right before the industrial revolution.

Talk about intellectual dishonesty....

Look at the graphs. Most of the warming of the last 300 years actually took place prior to the industrial revolution.

source?

If you google search the image he used, you can only find it back in some obscure, poorly designed website, so I'm not really inclined to believe that data is accurate.

Nope. Try again. Source is ice core samples. One is the Vostok core sample. Look it up, Einstein.

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@deeliman said:

@KC_Hokie: That graph still doesn't go further than 1855, so it's not relevant.

Also, most of the warming did take place during/after the industrial revolution.

No. Both ice core samples go to present day

And I'm not sure who your source is for that graph. The ones I posted were based on ice core samples.

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@MakeMeaSammitch said:

@KC_Hokie said:

@MakeMeaSammitch said:

@deeliman said:

@KC_Hokie: That graph stops at 1855...

How convinient Hokie, right before the industrial revolution.

Talk about intellectual dishonesty....

Look at the graphs. Most of the warming of the last 300 years actually took place prior to the industrial revolution.

source?

Ice core samples. See my posts above.

Most of the warming since the little ice age occurred prior to the Second Industrial Revolution which started in the 1860s. That was the start of mass production, steel, etc. and the start of large amounts of human created CO2.

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Palestinians are lucky to have any land and weren't driven into the sea. Because that's exactly what the Arabs would have done if they won any of the wars against Israel.

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@MakeMeaSammitch said:

@deeliman said:

@KC_Hokie: That graph stops at 1855...

How convinient Hokie, right before the industrial revolution.

Talk about intellectual dishonesty....

Look at the graphs. Most of the warming of the last 300 years actually took place prior to the industrial revolution.

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@deeliman said:

@KC_Hokie: That graph stops at 1855...

Ice core samples show the current temperatures are actually BELOW the 10,000 average. Those are from the North Pole.

Ice core samples from the South Pole (Vostok) show the same exact thing. And we are also below average:

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@MakeMeaSammitch said:

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I'm a classical liberal which is center-right in most countries.

you're a pseudo intellectual who sucks at reading graphs.

My proof? You use the term "classic liberal" to sound smart when the only place people use that term is GameSpot

I use the term 'classical liberal' because modern day 'progressive' liberals have perverted the word.

They only believe in liberalism and individual freedom as long as it doesn't interfere with their government mandates.

No, you use it because you're an idiot who is trying to sound smart by using an uncommonly used word.

No. The term 'liberal' was used for hundreds of years prior to the perversion of the word by the 'progressives' a hundred years ago.

I am a classical liberal and don't really care if you don't like that.

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@KC_Hokie: That's not true at all.

Yea it is. We know it from ice core samples. There is nothing unusual about current warming.

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@MakeMeaSammitch said:

@KC_Hokie said:

I'm a classical liberal which is center-right in most countries.

you're a pseudo intellectual who sucks at reading graphs.

My proof? You use the term "classic liberal" to sound smart when the only place people use that term is GameSpot

I use the term 'classical liberal' because modern day 'progressive' liberals have perverted the word.

They only believe in liberalism and individual freedom as long as it doesn't interfere with their government mandates.

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@MakeMeaSammitch said:

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Climate has changed on Earth for millions of years. Not sure why anyone would think humans are all of a sudden responsible for mother nature.

That would go to the mountains and mountains of data suggesting a correlation between certain pollutants beginning during the industrial revolution and changes in climate. Evidence of course stems from Ice Core samples, carbon cycle studies, and the spike in temperature vs. carbon levels in our atmosphere in the past 200 years. Of course all this data is nothing to people like you who prefer conspiracy theories.

Just check the Harvard or NASA websites for real data. just check the link I posted.

Yes but, correlation does not imply causation.

In this case, it does, Repeated testing and experimentation by multiple sources does point to a specific cause.

Repeating a phrase you've heard doesn't really mean anything without context behind it.

Just in the last 5,000 years (modern civilization) the earth has been warmer several times and just as warm several more. Not sure why you blame the recent warming on humans (which started 300 years ago after the Little Ice Age).