Some of you are just too idealistic to argue with.

This degree is useless, plain and simple.

There needs to be laws against this, I heard a few states were considering doing that.

They're giving money to people who have no right to it when the state is struggling with money right now.

Pro-illegals just don't think things through.

[QUOTE="KDhigherthangod"]Making money is what everybody should strive to do, it's what sets people who make conforable livings apart from people who work at Walmart.

It's not a philosophy, it's reality.

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Money shouldn't be the only reason you attend a course, or else we'd have ten times as many engineers than we have now and most literature and history related majors would be extinguished.

With that said, I do believe this degree is completely pointless. I would argue the utility of the knowledge given by a major like this is a bigger deterrer than the apparent lack of market appeal.

Engineering does take mathematical talent though.

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Wasdie, I take serious issue with your implication that college is about building job marketability and not about academic interest. I can't speak for anyone else here, but I'm at college out of academic interest not only in my fields of study (economics, mathematics), but also really just a desire to learn (hence why I've really enjoyed a lot of the core curriculum which has not been very relevant to my major). I could probably get a lucrative job at a consulting firm, but I'm not that interested in that. I'm looking for a full-time research position, followed by graduate studies. It's just a matter of what you're interested in and what you want to do. If people are interested in LGBT studies or any other "useless" major, they should study it. Perhaps they should take a second major to increase their job prospects, but at the end of the day it's their choice and you should respect that.chessmaster1989

College costs thousands and thousands of dollars, and the purpose of it is to increase your appeal to employers. If things are learned in addition to what's important that's great, but that's not why somebody should be there.

A person in this major is essentially wasting money, they're going to gain nothing practical from it, and upon graduating, they are going to end up working at McDonalds or something similar with a degree that's worth nothing, and will spend the next 3 decades paying back loans with their minimum wage job. This Degree is doing no service to anybody and will probably be damaging to gullible or stupid kids picking their major.

1) You are working under the debatable and subjective assumption that college's purpose is to increase marketability in terms of jobs. I personally disagree with this viewpoint - college (imo) has a secondary purpose of increasing job marketability, but education is its primary purpose.
2) You are working under the false assumption that everyone taking this major has to take out college loans.
3) You are working under the debatably false assumption that there is no value to this major.
4) You are working under the false assumption that people who complete this major will never complete any other major.
5) You are working under the false assumption that people who complete this major have job interests that are not benefitted by this major.
6) You (implicitly) assume that people who take this major will be entering the job makret immediately after college.

Just a few of the basic problems with your post. But hey, you know what they say about assumptions.

2. So they're getting free college for a useless degree? That's a load of crap, somebody who is studying something worthwhile should get bonuses like that, not future Walmart Employees.

3. Assumption? I think you're living under some delusions....

4. Doesn't make this major less useless, if you're double or triple majoring, why not make them useful degrees?

5. Name one thing this degree would be good for.

6. So you're saying they're gonna go to grad school to further this useless degree? It doesn't change the fact that they wasted alot of time and money getting the degree in the first place.

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Wasdie, I take serious issue with your implication that college is about building job marketability and not about academic interest. I can't speak for anyone else here, but I'm at college out of academic interest not only in my fields of study (economics, mathematics), but also really just a desire to learn (hence why I've really enjoyed a lot of the core curriculum which has not been very relevant to my major). I could probably get a lucrative job at a consulting firm, but I'm not that interested in that. I'm looking for a full-time research position, followed by graduate studies. It's just a matter of what you're interested in and what you want to do. If people are interested in LGBT studies or any other "useless" major, they should study it. Perhaps they should take a second major to increase their job prospects, but at the end of the day it's their choice and you should respect that.Teenaged

College costs thousands and thousands of dollars, and the purpose of it is to increase your appeal to employers. If things are learned in addition to what's important that's great, but that's not why somebody should be there.

A person in this major is essentially wasting money, they're going to gain nothing practical from it, and upon graduating, they are going to end up working at McDonalds or something similar with a degree that's worth nothing, and will spend the next 3 decades paying back loans with their minimum wage job. This Degree is doing no service to anybody and will probably be damaging to gullible or stupid kids picking their major.

Dont present your own life philosophy as what is best for "the real world".

It's not a philosophy, it's reality.

[QUOTE="KDhigherthangod"]That's great, but let me tell you how it works in the real world. College costs thousands and thousands of dollars, and the purpose of it is to increase your appeal to employers. If things are learned in addition to what's important that's great, but that's not why somebody should be there. A person in this major is essentially wasting money, they're going to gain nothing practical from it, and upon graduating, they are going to end up working at McDonalds or something similar with a degree that's worth nothing, and will spend the next 3 decades paying back loans with their minimum wage job. This Degree is doing no service to anybody and will probably be damaging to gullible or stupid kids picking their major.scorch-62

lmao, it's called reality.

I think it's a conflict in ideology

Religion vs. Science

Assumption vs. Experimentation, evidence, never assuming something to be 100% correct, ect.

The ideologies are opposite, so there will always be conflict.

Wasdie, I take serious issue with your implication that college is about building job marketability and not about academic interest. I can't speak for anyone else here, but I'm at college out of academic interest not only in my fields of study (economics, mathematics), but also really just a desire to learn (hence why I've really enjoyed a lot of the core curriculum which has not been very relevant to my major). I could probably get a lucrative job at a consulting firm, but I'm not that interested in that. I'm looking for a full-time research position, followed by graduate studies. It's just a matter of what you're interested in and what you want to do. If people are interested in LGBT studies or any other "useless" major, they should study it. Perhaps they should take a second major to increase their job prospects, but at the end of the day it's their choice and you should respect that.chessmaster1989

College costs thousands and thousands of dollars, and the purpose of it is to increase your appeal to employers. If things are learned in addition to what's important that's great, but that's not why somebody should be there.

A person in this major is essentially wasting money, they're going to gain nothing practical from it, and upon graduating, they are going to end up working at McDonalds or something similar with a degree that's worth nothing, and will spend the next 3 decades paying back loans with their minimum wage job. This Degree is doing no service to anybody and will probably be damaging to gullible or stupid kids picking their major.

I don't think anybody would have a problem with somebody robbing Hitler....