[QUOTE="KDhigherthangod"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Uhmm....I pointed out a HUGE list of intellectual people who beilieved in God and who pushed forward progress. And that's all you can say?

AlsoGalileo was NOT an atheist, he didn't belive in the church. But he was still a Christian and pracitced it. You don't know much about history....

ShadowMoses900

lol no, please show me where 95% of scientist are atheists? And most scientific discoveries and advances were made by people who belived in God. Radcial religious groups are definately against science, but hardcore atheists are just as closed minded.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Have athiests burned people at the stake? No

Have athiests tried to bring magic and make belief into the science classroom? No

Have athiests tried to impose ideals about sexuality based on the writings of sheepherders from 2000 years ago? No

Have athiest tried to limit scientific research trueout human history? No

Have athiests forbidden the use of contraceptives in countries riddled with aids? No

Have athiests tortured and killed thousands of people because they were not athiests? No

Do athiests come knocking on your door in an attempt to teach you the 'way'? No

Do athiests form cults stealing away children in order to convert them? No

Do athiests protest at the funerals of dead soldiers and cancer victims? No

Mordred19

All those things happened under communist regimes under Joseph Stalin and other athiests....may be a different context but still the same, like cults stealing kids away, well in the soviet union Stalin had secret police who kidnapped kids and sent them into prison bases.

I guess I have to repeat myself:

tell me how atheism can motivate someone to take actions (or in this case, order them) that will kill millions of people. what is it about lack of belief in gods that removes a person's instinctive empathy for other human beings? can you enlighten me about the causal relationship between these things?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

You say that you don't hate religion, fine I'll take your word at it. But by it being a private thing than what do you mean? Do you mean not being allowed to practice religion openly? Than if so that is intolerant and goes against the 1st amendment. As long as they don't push their views on anyone than there is no problem, that's why we have freedom of religion (or lack thereof) and you can practice it.

As for religion holding us back, you should read a histroy book. You know who was religious? Martin Luther King JR. his faith inspired him along with others to push for civil rights, it wasn't the main thing mind you, but it was definately a big part. Charles Darwin was also religious, so was George Washington, James Madison, and the other founding fathers. Even the other founding fathers who were't as religous such as Jefferson still believed in God and were deists, hell Jefferson even wrote his own perception/study of the bible, very good read and I recommend it. Abraham Lincoln was also very religious too, and look at what he did.

And here is a quote by a famous scientist who was very educated:

"Science withot religion is lame, Religion withoutScience is blind"-Albert Einstein

So there goes your argument for Religion holding us back.....

And for me personally, the more I learn about science the more it strengthens my faith. I believe in both God and Science and Evolution.

ShadowMoses900

Galileo says hello, more of a stangled whelp as he is after all burning in the fires of hell is he not?

Uhmm....I pointed out a HUGE list of intellectual people who beilieved in God and who pushed forward progress. And that's all you can say?

AlsoGalileo was NOT an atheist, he didn't belive in the church. But he was still a Christian and pracitced it. You don't know much about history....

Who is god? :?

painguy1

Also things happen they can't explain so theycan't find an explanation for it.ShadowMoses900

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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

Just fixing this: AA helps minorities in the face of majorities (not "white people"). It can be about color, dominance, natives, etc.

Victorious_Fize

Then why does it hurt Asians? Why is it more difficult for an Asian to get accepted into med programs than whites, blacks, hispanics or any other race?

I'm talking about AA itself, not hypothesis, it is not limited to race. It is simply the favouring of someone over another regardless of his merits. Maybe he was wronged, maybe he was favoured, maybe she was hot. etc. AA can be a method of balancing or supremacy or whatever reason someone would need to give handouts for another for.

[QUOTE="KDhigherthangod"][QUOTE="Santesyu"]

"Sounds like pushing racism to give people an advantage they never worked for. Your whole argument is based purely on people being inherently racist.."

You know how many people never get certain chances because of there race, atleast there is a balance for better or for worse.

Santesyu