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[QUOTE="KeitekeTokage"][QUOTE="exiledsnake"] You'd be correct that a vast majority of past civilizations were mostly built upon religion. Why would one steal/rape/murder/cheat if they knew a higher power was watching over them? We'll in the case of Christianity, why not!? All you have to do is ask for forgiveness and you still get to go to a place of eternal paradise, so what's to lose? Now granted the instant forgiveness injustice Christianity offers does not apply to all religions, and I realize some do teach that being good in life is your responsibility, such as Buddhism, and I respect them more for this. However, I think its sad that people would need a God watching over them to make them be good to others, I don't think one is watching over me, yet I'm not going out committing grave acts of violence and such. I don't think religion is a necessary purpose at all, why do people need this temptation of eternal reward, or fear of eternal damnation to be good? As an Atheist I can tell you religion is only a necessity if you make it one. I find it hard to believe people are better off thinking the deserve the bad things that happen to them rather than knowing we live in a universe indifferent to our existence and things just happen for no reason. But I do understand where you're coming from [QUOTE="m25105"]
[QUOTE="m25105"]Thread creator asks people that believe and why do they do and immediately most posts are from atheists. What's your point in posting "I don't believe in God"? You're not answering the thread creator and just take up space.
To answer the thread creator, yes I do believe in God. Why? Sometimes things happen in life where one can't help, but feel that there was some divine intervention. Not to mention the wonders of life around us, from animals, to nature to ourselves. I mean look how we're communicating now. Our own mind is for me the greatest evidence of God.
exiledsnake
Do murders, diseases, famines, rapes, genocides, sudden deaths, cancer, tornadoes, huricanes, poisonous animals, tsunamis, earthquakes, short life spans, frail human bodies, only being able to live on less than a quarter of the Earth etc also give you that tingly "there's a God feeling"? Not to mention we live in a Universe entirely hostile to life as we know here on Earth. This is quite the design, eh?
Wow this was a long post, apologies, just wanted to respond to everyone since I was the OP.
Yes it's all part of life. Our mind and our choices to do what we want is the best example for me that we're a walking miracle.Yes? So all those things demonstrate to you that there is a God? You can't say those things are just a part of life, you told me that the good things are due to God, so the bad things are placed there by God and he does nothing to prevent them from happening. You can not say God deserves credit for the good things in life but the bad things are just there. God is ultimately responsible for everything. How is the mind a miracle
+1No. My life has had so much more meaning since I abandoned the idea of god.
BuryMe
I don't believe in any religion, but I also don't isolate it. I'm not one to just fold over and believe everything I'm told when I'm younger. I never did believe in Santa, or the tooth fair, or any of that stuff. So naturally I didn't believe in a god either. That said, and as ridiculous as an invisible man in the sky sounds, I really think evolution sounds silly as well. I'm not saying it's not true--it could be--but think about how foolish it sounds. Species "change" over time to adapt to their environments..? -Tish-Wow...do you understand evolution? Natural selection? If there are three insects in a lush green field, one green, one red, and one blue, and predators often stalk the field using the insects as their prey, which ones do you think are going to be eaten? The red and blue ones right? So the green one lives on and is able to reproduce offspring that are also green. eventually the entire population of red and blue insects will die off because they are easily seen by the predators,while the green ones are able to disguse themselves, and the green ones will survive, because they thrive in their environments. That's natural selection, the basics of evolution dude. What sounds so silly about that? That's common sense. And thats actually an observed fact by the way. Please educate yourself..
I use to be an atheist, now I'm agnostic, there's definetly something bigger then us, a god? I don't know, if anything there's gods, my opinion on religion changes from day to day. Whatever feels right at the moment is what I believe, I feel that there are higher beings, but they're no more perfect then us, they probably don't even consider themselves higher beings. We're higher beings to a lot of creatues already..But we don't consider ourselves gods, now do we? Even though we can create and destroy at will.
Jamiemydearx3
Why does there need to be anything bigger or more perfect than we to oversee the universe or exist at all?
I believe that we inhabit a nihilistic void that remains devoid of empathy for humankind; its existence and dreams, and that we ultimately all lead futile lives.super_mario_128
Win.
[QUOTE="KeitekeTokage"][QUOTE="kdawg88"]I believe that the purpose of the human mind is not to have everything down to a science, because in reality that is impossible. We cannot comprehend all the workings of the world. lowkey254
Actually theoretically we can, assuming by "world" you mean Earth. We just don't yet, and will take us quite a while to do so, we're making a lot of progress however. I'm not sure what you mean by having everything down to a science..
Lol @ theoretically. That seems like a claim to me, that science can explain everything. Aren't most things in science a theory, or a claim that has yet to be proven?
It's not a claim, because I'm not saying we do currently know everything. I am saying however that theoretically we can explain everything on Earth scientifically, given the time and knowledge, want to point out something we can explain? Yeah, everything is a theory, kind of like gravity, dummy.
[QUOTE="KeitekeTokage"][QUOTE="Treflis"]I believe there has to be a more rational and logic explination not only to how our solar system was formed but also what humans evolved from aswell as the planet themselves, rather then believe a almighty entity who is only mentioned in a book has created everything. That said everybody are entitled to their own beliefs.mohfrontline
Studying Astronomy, I have to chime in here a bit; we do know how our solar system formed. Giant gas clouds called nebula condense under gravity until nuclear fusion ignites in the center from the heat caused by pressure becoming the sun, the planets accrete from the remaining material. This is a VERY simplified account of what happens, but its the basics. We can also observe this happening in other regions today.
Or alternatively: God did it.
have you ever thought that God started the process of nebula forming? This is what I think. Believing that the universe just popped up instantly because a voice said so is ridiculous. If you believe in God, you should understand that He most likely created the processes of science and the formation of the universe.
What? You don't know what you're talking about do you? We can observe nebula's condensing, and we know why they are doing it. What are you trying to say? Go read some cosmology and come back, I don't even know what you're trying to say..
Thread creator asks people that believe and why do they do and immediately most posts are from atheists. What's your point in posting "I don't believe in God"? You're not answering the thread creator and just take up space.
To answer the thread creator, yes I do believe in God. Why? Sometimes things happen in life where one can't help, but feel that there was some divine intervention. Not to mention the wonders of life around us, from animals, to nature to ourselves. I mean look how we're communicating now. Our own mind is for me the greatest evidence of God.
m25105
Do murders, diseases, famines, rapes, genocides, sudden deaths, cancer, tornadoes, huricanes, poisonous animals, tsunamis, earthquakes, short life spans, frail human bodies, only being able to live on less than a quarter of the Earth etc also give you that tingly "there's a God feeling"? Not to mention we live in a Universe entirely hostile to life as we know here on Earth. This is quite the design, eh?
Wow this was a long post, apologies, just wanted to respond to everyone since I was the OP.
I believe there has to be a more rational and logic explination not only to how our solar system was formed but also what humans evolved from aswell as the planet themselves, rather then believe a almighty entity who is only mentioned in a book has created everything. That said everybody are entitled to their own beliefs.Treflis
Studying Astronomy, I have to chime in here a bit; we do know how our solar system formed. Giant gas clouds called nebula condense under gravity until nuclear fusion ignites in the center from the heat caused by pressure becoming the sun, the planets accrete from the remaining material. This is a VERY simplified account of what happens, but its the basics. We can also observe this happening in other regions today.
Or alternatively: God did it.
Sports require athletism.
Unless someone can point out why Nascar takes any more effort than you're morning comute to work (If anything the drive to work takes more with all the ass-hats on the roads) then it remains: A form of entertainment.
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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]
Here is a fundamentalist Christian commenting on the church I go to (best church ever)
http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2011/02/07/does-elizabethton-presbyterian-church-in-tennessee-teach-heresy/
Guybrush_3
Ken Ham dude???
Aside from that though, were you raised going to Church because of your parents, or did you make a concious decision to go later in life without parental influence, if so, why?
realize that the bible really is just a bunch of stories and not historical factWithout The Bible Christianity doesn't exist?...What do they preach? Sounds like a Deistic Church to me.
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