[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Person0"]Well apparently the guy was wearing body armor, so unless your gonna carry a rifle your pistol probably wouldn't have stopped him.Person0

^ Shows how very little you know about firearms. Plus you avoided the merits of my post.

Firstly, a vest only stops bullet penetration. Not the force of the impact. Even 9mm rounds can break someone's ribs unless they have ceramic plates, which this person didn't.

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Now where do I say anything about guns restrictions? Moron.

worlock77

You were claiming that I argued in favor of gun restrictions. I did no such thing. If you wish to debate then I'll thank you to not claim thing that I have not said. If you'll notice my other posts in this thread I've argued against gun bans. You've stupidly been picking an argument with someone who holds a similar point of view on the subject.

New York has New York City, Illinois has Chicago, and California has Los Angeles. Those three cities are the three biggest hotbeds of criminal and gang activity in the United States. They also happen to be the three largest cities in the United States. The reasons why these cities have such high levels of crime are largely due to having such high populations. The reason for crime, however, are complex and cannot be reduced down to such simplistic argument like "gun ban = less crime" or "all citizens armed = less crime".

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

Criminals are criminals. They should be locked up to get fixed.Socijalisticka

There exist forces that drive people to commit criminal acts. Criminals aren't just born criminals. Simply jailing criminals will not stop the continuation of the perpetrationof crime. This is such an elementary concept that you can't seem to comprehend.

Will it? You take my heroin comment out of context. I'm for freedom. Alcohol is legal and people abuse it. I'm not denying this. I'm not talking about saving people by limiting of what they can do. I'm talking about saving people by reducing the restrictions on hurtful items.LOXO7

That's preciselywhat you've implied, that less government is the solution to the corruption of heroin. How would loosening restriction on heroin save people's lives?

I never said that you goddamn dipsh*t. Here is the exchange you decided to interject yourself into:

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]This is an idea that I had as well, if you look at the states with the most strict gun control policies (like California, New York, Illinois ect...) they also have the most gun related crimes. Conversely if you look at states with the most laxed gun laws (like Texas, Nebraska, Alaska, Oklahoma, ect...) you see much less gun crimes.worlock77

Illinois, California and New York are also the states with the three largest cities in the US. Of course they're going to have more gun related crimes. Meanwhile how many people live in Alaska, Oklahoma or Nebraska?

Now where do I say anything about guns restrictions? Moron.

[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Come on, look me in the eye and tell me all those gansters are going to open up shop just because guns are banned.

You're cracking a smile, I see it.

See, you're just being silly.

br0kenrabbit

I never said 'people'. I said 'Thug' and "Gangster'. Most people aren't thugs and gangsters, are they?

And how many thugs and gangsters are law-abiding? What percentage would you guess?

[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

I said nothing about the restriction of guns idiot.

worlock77

You need to go back and carefully re-read because you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about here.

[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Because Texas has a huge population. Do you have an actual point to add?

worlock77

I said nothing about the restriction of guns idiot.

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]Sure. A street thug could own a small business as a front. And still rob for extra cash because no one is there to stop him. Because they have no guns.br0kenrabbit

Come on, look me in the eye and tell me all those gansters are going to open up shop just because guns are banned.

You're cracking a smile, I see it.

See, you're just being silly.

[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Illinois, California and New York are also the states with the three largest cities in the US. Of course they're going to have more gun related crimes. Meanwhile how many people live in Alaska, Oklahoma or Nebraska?

worlock77

Because Texas has a huge population. Do you have an actual point to add?