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#1 LOXO7
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I still find the Concept of Everyone being armed is the better goal for a society. I can see the point, Just seems more of a defeatist policy. not to mention the clusterfvck that could occur in the confusion of 50 people pulling out guns. i would much rather a society where guns were very rare then one where they were very common.

mattisgod01

[QUOTE="LOXO7"] A better solution to that is have people open carry everywhere. What if some other person inside that theater was armed?mattisgod01

Do you really trust civilians to carry around weapons? i'd feel concerned about a bunch of random people pulling out guns and exchanging shots. Even so, The majority of Gun homicides are under circumstances where it wouldn't have mattered.

It's the second amendment of the US Constitution. I have more trust in a person that carries their sidearm out in the open then a gang member that tucks it away down his pants. No one is going to shoot anyone in that environment unless they have a death wish. Even so this society doesn't exist yet. It's supposed to, but people are harassed and are persuaded guns are bad for society.

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#2 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]mattisgod01

And if I had nothing better to do with my time I could go through your post history and find the comments you made bashing the US. But unlike you....I have more pressing things to do then spend time trying to find posts in someone's post history. Your first reaction in this thread was to bash America. I don't think you can deny that comment dude. It got quoted enough times. /discussion

American Gun policy = America? Yea no.

i don't agree with the availability of guns in America, Doesn't mean i hate America because of it.

You have more pressing things to do? Who are you kidding? You are always posting on GS. You have nothing else going on but the refresh button.

I took up your challenge and proved you wrong on a dozen accounts, Rather then own up to it you scurry away like a cockraoch and pretend like it's irrelevent. You made a claim that i'm an American Basher, I put evidence forward proving otherwise. Stop being a little Bltch and back up you BS.

Also, How does me pushing for stircter Gun laws in the US in order to save lives make me an American Basher? You still fail to see how far up your own ass you head is. If anyone differs from your opinion they are absolutley wrong. Regardless of what they are arguing for. I'm arguing my case with the Intent to save lives, Feel free to disagree with the effectiveness of such a idea but don't assume it's American bashing just because i don't like certain things or agree with your views.

What would happen in America if it were a gun free zone?
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#3 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="noscope-ak47"]

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

The Zip gun was less useful than a knife. Sure it had some range but it was otherwise worthless junk.

champion837

You have a very one track mind there buddy. The gun laws are a joke they don't stop the sale of gun parts that can be used to make a gun. Even a replica with a little work can be made into a real gun. Just than GOD that you were not the target of terrorist. I was at a bar in texas in 2010 and a idoit walks in to rob the place with a 380. Myself and almost everybody else was armed. He begged us to call the cops. So having normal people armed is far from a bad thing the police can not be every place at all times. I would go so far as to say if the people at that movie were armed many lives could have been saved

But I can say that if no one was armed then no one wouldve died.

Heroin is illegal in the US. Yet people are killed by heroin. Explain that one? Noscope is right. The solution is less government. More people have to carry firearms in public.
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#4 LOXO7
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Since everyone here is so interested in the shooter, here's a link of his bio.

According to the bio, there was absolutely nothing wrong with this guy up until the shooting. That's disturbing.

leviathan91
Yeah! He was a patsy! Watch out he will get assassinated soon.
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#5 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

WHich for the millionth time proves it isn't firearms that are the cause...its a problem with our society that gun control won't fix.

UnknownSniper65

Why do people use guns over knives? Simple, They are more efficient at killing. You give people Superior killing weapons it will result in more fatalities. Sure the US has issues to consider that contribute but so do guns. How many people would have survived a violent altercation if guns weren't invovled?

What if it was a larger knive or a sword?

Again you're dancing around the fixing the cause. People always find ways to kill as many people as possible. Its impossible to stop every way someone could go about a mass killing. A much more common sense approach is to stop them before they make the decision to carry it out.

A better solution to that is have people open carry everywhere. What if some other person inside that theater was armed?
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#6 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

I'm sorry, I thought trying to convicne Americans that the whole 9/11 hoax thing was stupid and that the US government was not behind is counted as support...Does claiming that the US government killed thousands of their own people to fuel a war count as support?

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You should apologize. It's support for the manipulated main stream media. That's not helping Americans with anything, other than trying to convince them further of the lies in our country and the world. America is a place where freedom is supposed to reign. Jumping on the side with the power schemers is against freedom. Saying, "The US government killed thousand of their own people to fuel a war," is better than telling someone that they're stupid for thinking that way.

It is such a cynical view to have, It would take far too many people to be in on it. We are not going to get into a 9/11 debate are we?

No. I'm trying to stay on point. You think telling people what the government and media says is truth and this helps the people. I have serious problems with that statement. It's basically telling people to shut up to be good little slaves. The government and media knows what's best for you, kind of thing.
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#7 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="LOXO7"] Oh. Was he talking about Mexican military and police?noscope-ak47

Yes, But in a way. They Would Get their Gear through the US Military and Department of Defence. So it can be traced back to American supply i guess.

Now your just reaching buddy. You can order gun parts even in places that ban guns and build almost any gun you want. You can make poison gas from things at your local drug store for example. The number of ways you can kill people is only limited by your wallet and your imagination. Even a idiot can kill a crowd with stuff you can learn on the net.

Oh ****! Don't bring up the Internet. The governments are already trying to control information on that too. They don't need to see this off the wall example too.
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#8 LOXO7
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If only everyone wasn't allowed to have a gun in the US, these things might not happen so often.

CondorCalabasas
Right. We may have more people becoming police officers just in order to have a gun. I couldn't image the government running over our rights if the populace wasn't armed. There is no downside to this.
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#9 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

...

Me defending America

http://au.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28857329/a-funny-video-about-the-conspiracy-theory-of-september-11?page=0

...

I could go on but i think you get the point. with these links i can also kill 2 birds with one stone, Or discredit 2 LJ lies with one post. They both prove that no only do i refrain from bashing the US in threads open to it, I go as far as to defend America on several occasions. You will also note in these links a trend, LJ is present in almost all and he is, Yes you guessed it, Bashing America, Nah he's not. He is nothing short ff Strident in his defence. Not surprising.

Now I ask that you withdraw you savage lies, And repent for your sins. REPENT!!!!

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That one is not defending America. It's you ridiculing Americans who think a certain way. This is the only link I looked at. Maybe I got the only one?

I'm sorry, I thought trying to convicne Americans that the whole 9/11 hoax thing was stupid and that the US government was not behind is counted as support...Does claiming that the US government killed thousands of their own people to fuel a war count as support?

You should apologize. It's support for the manipulated main stream media. That's not helping Americans with anything, other than trying to convince them further of the lies in our country and the world. America is a place where freedom is supposed to reign. Jumping on the side with the power schemers is against freedom. Saying, "The US government killed thousand of their own people to fuel a war," is better than telling someone that they're stupid for thinking that way.
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#10 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

Most guns used in Mexico are taken from the police and military

mattisgod01

Whoa. Continue with more information please. Taken? Are you sure? Taken by force? Or stolen? Or given?

Alot of corruption in Mexico. Cartels have been known to buy out Generals. And very high ranking police and politicians. They have many means of acquiring guns.

Oh. Was he talking about Mexican military and police?