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Yea your right BC2 is capped at 30fps on consoles, my bad. Modern Warfare 2 runs at 60 fps though. Just a bad example i gave sorry. Let's look at your setup. First i want to show you this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN3LxdffsoQ It's need for speed hot pursuit on a 5670. Runs at around 25-33 fps. Console version also runs at 30 fps. So we can assume about the same. You have built a PC that costs 344.90 dollars that gives about the same equivilent performance of a 360. A 360 costs 199.99 dollars. Your PC costs 145 dollars more than a 360. Still proves the point that PC's cost more. Also, Crysis 2 and Rage will all run great on consoles, can you safely say that the PC you built will be able to run Crysis 2 or Rage with any degree of accuracy to your statement?jedikevin2

Dude... You do understand that link you just provided just adds more fallacies? A.. he's recording it which will drop frames... Second, he's gaming at a resolution higher then a console which debunks anything being said to use the link.

Can I ask when you bought your 360? I've proven a timeline in price. You are trying to prove the right and now.

[QUOTE="MacDee23"]Ill give you an example. I want to play Battlefield 2 Bad Company. If i buy this PC - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-259-OK&groupid=43&catid=1444&subcat= then i play BF2 BC at less than 20 framers pers second in low resolution and have spent 356.48 in doing so. If i buy an Xbox 360 i have spent 149.99 and have everything out the box to play it at near 60 fps in upscaled 1080p. The day you can show me a PC that can run Battlefield 2 Bad Company at an upscaled resolution of 1080p at nearly 60fps throughout the whole game for 149.99 is the day i will agree with you.Hakkai007

Do you have proof that Bad comapny 2 is runing on consoles at 60fps?

last time I remember it being closer to 30 fps.

Also you are using a bad comparison.

720P upscaled to 1080P is still 1280x720. The pixel count is still the same and just as blurry.

The console version has no AA either.

The console version looks horrible compared to the PC version.

Also this PC I just put together would PWN a console 3 times over with higher resolutions, AA+AF and settings.

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Hmmm, my old PC proves you wrong... And you do know bc2 is capped at 30 fps on consoles right? Your just throwing out random statements bro.

jedikevin2

[QUOTE="MacDee23"][QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

Hmmm... my computer that i showed even after upgrading cost less then a ps3 (see system wars monthly pay edition).. Sorry but I thought I dispelled this a page ago.

Now, my comptuer in my sig cost me 300 dollars after selling the old computer for $300 dollars.

jedikevin2

The day you understand upscaled 1080p is not 1080p, is the day your statement will make sense to me. My old PC played bad company 2 far better then a console counterpart at a graphics standard that a console could not and also at a resolution the console could not.

[QUOTE="MacDee23"]Ok let's compare prices then. I live in the UK, so the prices will be slightly different to the US, but they won't be much different. Here is the cheapest pre-built gaming rig that Overclockers make - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-259-OK&groupid=43&catid=1444&subcat= It costs over 2 x that of an XBox 360 (356.48 compayred to the xbox which costs 149.99) The processor is worse (dual core instead of the XBox tri-core) and the graphics card stinks (GT 430) - it can't even play Battlefirnd Bad Company 2 in low res at more than 20 frames per second - http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gt-430-review/9 In other words, if i wanted to play Battlefield Bad Company 2 i have this option - Buy a PC that costs 356.48 Play it at low resolution with less than 20 frames per second OR Buy an Xbox for 149.99 Play it at a resolution upscaled to 1080p at nearly 60 fps throughout the whole game. Sorry, there is no way PC gaming is as cheap as Console gaming. No way at all.jedikevin2

Hmmm... my computer that i showed even after upgrading cost less then a ps3 (see system wars monthly pay edition).. Sorry but I thought I dispelled this a page ago.

Now, my comptuer in my sig cost me 300 dollars after selling the old computer for $300 dollars.

[QUOTE="MacDee23"] I am also a PC gamer, so i'm not bashing it. I was answering to jedikevin2. If StarCraft 2 has 1.5 million users then great. When you provide a screenshot of SC2 numbers and not Battlenet numbers (also want precise numbers and not a rounded figure) then i will do the same with Black Ops on the 360 for you. I can tell you that precisely 733,481 people are playing Black Ops on the 360 at time of writing. Still, fact remains, there is no way you can get price for price, games running on the PC that look anywhere near as good as console versions. Even a PC that costs twice as much as a console gets nowhere near the performance.N30F3N1X

Nope.

I posted numbers.

All you can do is speculate. Errouneously too, as if speculating alone wasn't bad enough.

There is no discussion to be had until that situation changes.

[QUOTE="MacDee23"]Ok let's compare prices then. I live in the UK, so the prices will be slightly different to the US, but they won't be much different. Here is the cheapest pre-built gaming rig that Overclockers make - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-259-OK&groupid=43&catid=1444&subcat= It costs over 2 x that of an XBox 360 (356.48 compayred to the xbox which costs 149.99) The processor is worse (dual core instead of the XBox tri-core) and the graphics card stinks (GT 430) - it can't even play Battlefirnd Bad Company 2 in low res at more than 20 frames per second - http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gt-430-review/9 In other words, if i wanted to play Battlefield Bad Company 2 i have this option - Buy a PC that costs 356.48 Play it at low resolution with less than 20 frames per second OR Buy an Xbox for 149.99 Play it at a resolution upscaled to 1080p at nearly 60 fps throughout the whole game. Sorry, there is no way PC gaming is as cheap as Console gaming. No way at all.N30F3N1X

Interesting, your previous attempt at bashing PC gaming has been pounded into dust and you try to switch topics. How...unsurprising.

So...you only buy systems? No games for them?