List of games better than halo available on consoles and the Xbox 360 itself: Resistance series (On PS3 but still.) Crisis Series Half-Life Series Team Fortress Left 4 Dead Series The Darkness series Bioshock series Bulletstorm Prey That's not even half the amount, this is enough right here, with so many of these on PS3 as well and 360, both types of gamers should just avoid Halo entirely. The only hope for Halo is Halo 4, and hopefully it's not milkage.StatusShuffle

Yeah umm

maybe.

parkurtommo

Worst AI and Animations I've seen in this gen

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So what data is available that will give an accurate number of PC game sales and why are developers/publishers so reluctant to release them? What's there to hide?

I for one would like to know how many copies of Flight Simulator X MS has sold to date. Yet, MS is very tight-lipped about it. It has to be a lot considering at one time, MS ran out of activation codes for FSX. What's their reason for not giving the number of copies sold?

Kinthalis

You can always look at multiplat sales. And even then both the PS3 and 360 beat the pc time and time again. You dont even have to combine them to do it. The PC version of a multiplat in MOST cases is always in third place.

Can you provide sites?

The PS3 is actually usually in 3rd place, and on some games the PC does better than BOTH consoles combined (see portal 2, BAd Comapny 2).

According to Bethesda Skyrim sold 5 million copies at retail among PC PS3 and Xbox. Based on estimates from Steam, the PC sold about 2.5+ million copies. So even if 80% of retail was consoles, odds are the PC sold better than the Ps3 version, and close tothe xbox 360 version.

And since about 1/2 of the copies were digital only those 50% brought Bethesda about 30% more profit than a console retail sale. In terms of [rofit, I wage the PC either beat the xbox or came close.

Look at Diablo 3. The game sold more than the vast majority fo console exclusives. 6.5 million in the first week alone.

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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Could of sold 60000 copies instead of 30000... hence losing money.

lostrib

Can you translate that to english please?

Eh halo is definitly dying, can't deny it. Halo 3 has more sales then Reach, ODST and Wars even though it had the smallest install base for when it came out. It had more then double the pre orders too at this time.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

They are still losing a sale, just like the argument against piracy.

Bebi_vegeta

Could of sold 60000 copies instead of 30000... hence losing money.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Then you have to include all the money developers lose from used game sales

lostrib

They are still losing a sale, just like the argument against piracy.

It looks like the original article is including software+hardware+accessories sale in the 517 Million, and PC is only game sales.

lostrib

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What as the last Multitplat game to sell better on PC then on Console that was not a Valve Game? Oh yea, None.

Zlychop

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[QUOTE="Zlychop"]

Steam isn't added into the PC sales, I think.

Also, why would devs not support the PC next gen?

Zlychop

Because they loose far more from piracy than what they could gain from a console only title

Thats only for Exclusive games, multiplats still have to sell well on the PC