I read somewhere that the super computer the british met-office used to work out weather forecasts in 1981 was equal to a pentium 1 @100mhz in terms of operations per second. 200mflops and 32mb ram. Much to my personal shame i remember the name of this machine, a 'cyber 205'.

So thats from enormous machine requiring its own electricity substation in 1981 to something that might cost 1500 quid in 1996.

http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/super-users-view.html

How much can drivers really improve it anyway? It doesn't even beat the 88GTS in some cases. Even if it does improve with new drivers, is it going to be far and away better than the GTS to warrant the extra $150+? I don't think so. Fignewton50

ATI think it will make enough of a difference to delay the launch for a week to wait for newer drivers. That alone says it will make a difference. Benches done with full games with the latest patches are worth alot more than ones done with demo versions. #my pet benchmark gripe lol#

Also Train Simulator...you only sat there.....Jordan_owns

wtf!?!?!? WHAT did you expect?? lol of course u just sit there your a train driver lmao

Where do I begin? Battlefield 2, AOE3 + Expansions, Star Wars Empire at War (luckily I didn't pickup the expansion), Rise & Fall, etc, etc, etc,.... Luckily I discovered EB's willingness to buy back games or I would have even more sitting in my room..Well, that is until Gamestop bought them and now I can't get rid of the bad games anymore.vicsrealms

Why didnt you like battlefield 2? (a general question to all who didnt like it) Ive never had soo much fun in a game. Hardly played any other game apart from that one for about 2 years after it came out. Please im VERY curious as to why you didnt like it, its huge fun. Please just a few lines, im itching to know :D

Wow, who reported my post about Crytek and NVIDIA being in bed together?Wesker776

you can reported for that? how sad. Shame on thee gamespot. nvidia is in bed with games companies. All credit to them though for pulling it off, a lesson to be learned their ati.

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Are you trying to tell me that across the whole globe, the price difference between an 8800 GT and a HD3870 is only $30 USD?

Why do you take one statistic and apply it uniformly to everything?

I said that that with either the HD3870 or 8800 GT, you can't lose. Some go with the HD3870 because they have a CrossFire capable motherboard (e.g. me), some buy it because it's cheaper than the 8800 GT (the difference is never concrete) while some buy the 8800 GT because they want the extra performance. Some people may even buy the HD3870 because they have their PC connected to their HDTV sets, and don't want to deal with cable mess. Heck, some may even want a more silent PC in which case they aim for a HD3870 or 8800 GTS G92 (dual slot silent fans)... There's a number of reasons why someone would want either card over the other.

Also, did you spend thousands on your rig? :| If someone is spending thousands on a PC, I don't think they'll be aiming at the HD3870 or 8800 GT...

Finally, are you trying to say that enthusiasts who bought the HD3870 aren't serious gamers?

Thinker_145

The MSRP of 3870 is $220 and 8800GT is $250.Both have seen fluctuations in their prices but the relative difference has remained the same.

You talk about price/performance so much why would you even let dual cards enter your mind.Contradictions much?

Anyways to bring in the situation of owning an SLI or CF borad is just grasping for straws.And if you have a CF board then you must have a beeferer PSU as well which furthur destorys your argument of price/performance.

Personal preferences will always be there,we are not to discuss that.

Whatever is there in my sig cost me a combined total of $1500.My card was alone $480.The problem is that i live in a thrid world country and when ever a new card comes it takes anywhere from 3-6 months to come here and then there is something better on the horizon when it actually comes so i cant really help this and GPU prices will mostly never fall to what their original prices were.And ya i will spend more money on my gaming like right now i am thinking about the average sound quality of my setup.Point is i will continue to spend(as long as i am able to) to make my gaming experience better and it will go into the thousands ofcourse.

Considering the MSRP of both cards(and the prices at newegg basically) and completely ignoring any dual cardmentality,yes an anthusiast gamer made a very stupid decision in buying the 3870.

Dont get me wrong the 3870 is a fantastic card and should satisfy any gamer but the thing is that the substitutes currently are just a far better option.Look at the new GTS,available at $280 after rebate at newegg,for me that renders the 8800GT pretty useless so dont think that i am a fanboy or something.

Thinker are you in the u.k.? Your writing reads like a native, im in exeter, where are you? just curious. Cheers

well last time I checked the difference between the 88GT and 3870 is about $20 or so on newegg. and the 8800GT is undoubtedly faster and more power efficient, I say it is worth the difference.muscleserge

Here in the u.k. the difference is more like 35 pounds, with the cheapest readeon 3870 i can find about 143 with free delivery and the cheapest 8800gt 512mb about 180 including (non-free lol) delivery. Its a clear want more pay more kind of choice, they both have the same value to them for the price.