it depends on your setup, methinks. and the games. different games have different SLI benefits. World of Warcraft and Crysis are horrible with SLI, for example.elitegeek13

Are you sure about that? in crysis I mean, what about after the new patch? Some geezer on tomshardware.com says crossfire is now more than working on his machine, so it sould mean good results for sli seeing as this is an nvidia game all over.

The guys called closd_deal and hes put some picks down.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/98955-25-crysis-patch

They dislike it because it is proclaimed to be the best FPS ever!!! When it doesn't live up to the first HL game or even quake 1 & 2.

Just last week I played through the original then went straight into number 2 and I unrelentingly believe the first game to just be better (apart from GFX of course).

Even on it's release I felt this way but now i am even more certain. So I dislike that HL2 is overrated but it's still a good whack at the FPS boardlist.

And HALO suxxxx and always did!

DrDoomed

Mate you are soo on the money. I did just that and the difference between the two is soo stark. The first one has guns worth a damn, the second has the gravity gun. I personally prefer unloading magazine after magazine into hoards of enemies than arsing about throwing radiators at them. HL2 is just as linear as the first one, which is inexcusable imo. The first one is set underground, the second is in a city and on the coast! Matey from earlier was right, hl2 has no real 'ending', it just stops all of a sudden. Our old friend the gman wanders in and says 'right, all fun is now over for another year till ep1'. Blah! And your STILL no closer to pasting his sorry ass like you sorely wanted to after the first game. Blah! blah!

Those are my gripes with it. Steam blows very very hard btw. Plus the guns are just stooooooooopid in hl2. I checked out the weapon damage on the internet, the magnum hasTEN TIMES the power ofan smg bullet (40 vs. 4), which is justplaindumn. The combine rifle has just a fifth the power of a magnum bullet (8), i mean come on, ammo is pretty scarce through much of the game for that gun, and once you get it its just walked all over by the magnum. This is a plasma rifle of movie mythology for gods sake, it should be the über weapon of choice! Plus the combine elite arnt that elite if their full body armour (which looks really sweet by the way) cant survive a right-click blast from the shotgun (combine elite 70 health, double blast 84 damage). After watching that thing on mythbusters about holywood myths, it makes it even more silly seeing as a magnum couldnt destroy a padlock in one shot, whereas a rifle and a shotgun could absolutleyobliterated it. In short the magnum is overpowered, the shotgun is way more powerful than the plasma rifle, and the combine elite are not as armoured-up as they appear. #end of rant#

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[QUOTE="Mankyblobs"]Id say it could use 1024mb of ram, it seems a really powerful gpu restricted by having 512mb ram. Bandwidth isnt a problem I think for the gt. Yeah its only a 256bit bus, but high speed ram like we have these days (2ghz+) makes up for alot of that. Look at it this way, the reason the new gts doesnt beat the old gtx at high res and high aa is down to the gtx having more ram (768mb). Benchmarks for the 1 gig 8800gt might show a real improvement at harsh resolutions and aa. The only concern would be potential price, cos it might be well over the top. But overclocked it would be like 95% as capable as a gtx.mastershake575

You have NO idea what you are talking about. Putting 1gb of ram on a card with 256bit bus is roughly equivalent to putting 512mb ram on a card with 128bit bus.

Tell me, does the 512mb 8500GT and 8600GT perform better than the 256mb versians? Nope. The bus bottlenecks the ram because only roughly twice the interface in ram can be utilized. That's why the 8800GTX has a 384bit interface and 768mb of ram. Same with the 8800GTS 640mb (320 bit). Capiche?

we will see.

It will all become clear in time grasshopper

oh, and the 8800GTX or the Ultra will definitely benefit more with that extra RAM, i don't know why they waste there time fitting extra memory on such card, maybe to make a quick buck...jasper061992

I dont think it will be that quick. They have to be selling some for a start.

The 8800GT IS bandwidth limited.
The GT/GTS 512mb has more shading power than the GTX but lose at higher resolutions for a number of reasons.
The Nvidia currently has the ROPs and the memory interface linked together, 4ROPS per 64bit.
The G92 has roughly the same, if not more, texturing power than the G80, so it's not due to that.

To say that the +2ghz of GDDR will make up for the 256bit interface is also wrong, well with the G92.
G92 uses Qimonda chips that are somewhat lackluster overclockers and there have been warnings not to go over 2000mhz. G92 is definitely bandwidth starved at those high resolutions, one of the reasons the HD3870 seems to outpace it at those resolutions with max settings.

LordEC911

It might use ram other than qimonda's. With the 3870, you mean without aa, right!?

Notice, how in the past, before crysis was out, their were demos of like a 7900 GTX running smoothly above 1920x1200 resolution and still getting +40 FPS on high settings. There were other similar reportings like this. Did Crytek delibaretly made the game unoptimised for GPU companies like nVidia to make tons of cash?

When you really think about, it all comes down to how well a game is optimised while the game still looks great. Just look at how Valve did it, they mastered the art of optimisation for PCs hardware. If only other gaming companies can follow that.

I think nVidia gave a lot of money to Crytek to make the game unoptimised before releasing its beta demo and such.hacker_xyzzy

If you honestly believe nvidia did that, then your a fool.

[QUOTE="Mankyblobs"]Id say it could use 1024mb of ram, it seems a really powerful gpu restricted by having 512mb ram. Bandwidth isnt a problem I think for the gt. Yeah its only a 256bit bus, but high speed ram like we have these days (2ghz+) makes up for alot of that. Look at it this way, the reason the new gts doesnt beat the old gtx at high res and high aa is down to the gtx having more ram (768mb). Benchmarks for the 1 gig 8800gt might show a real improvement at harsh resolutions and aa. The only concern would be potential price, cos it might be well over the top. But overclocked it would be like 95% as capable as a gtx.shanelevy

You have NO idea what you are talking about. Putting 1gb of ram on a card with 256bit bus is roughly equivalent to putting 512mb ram on a card with 128bit bus.

Tell me, does the 512mb 8500GT and 8600GT perform better than the 256mb versians? Nope. The bus bottlenecks the ram because only roughly twice the interface in ram can be utilized. That's why the 8800GTX has a 384bit interface and 768mb of ram. Same with the 8800GTS 640mb (320 bit). Capiche?

we will see.