The hyperbalkanization of both electronic music (jungle, trip hop, drum & bass, double ninja princess princess asplosion) and metal (grindcore, black metal, death metal, rather annoyed with my mum metal) is completely arbitrary and exists only to fuel arguments on the internet of whether or not a given band belongs in sub-sub-sub-sub-genre A or sub-sub-sub-genre B.xaos

It's hilarious how stubborn some people can be.

[QUOTE="Martzel94"]

It's not my fault that some people are not into music as much as others. When discussing metal we use terms that we understand and associate with certain types of sound, it is not our responsibility to use musical terms that everyone else understands. When I say death metal just about all people into metal will straight away know what I am talking about without the need to describe the music in detail. If I am talking to someone new to this type of music I may have to describe it to them, but using sub-genre terms is just much easier and quicker.

And you still haven't answered my question about what symphonic metal artist makes thrash, doom and power metal, mixing it all with industrial metal, I'm just curious.

Boogie_J

lol metalheads man,

why are metalheads so exclusionary?

And why some people can't mind their own business? When someone uses a term like Nerdcore hip hop I'm not bothering them if I don't understand what that means, they use a term that they associate a type of sound with, fair enough.

If you are not listening to metal then I don't see why the amount of sub-genres should bother you. As I said before, some of them can be ridiculous but there are those that are necessary.

[QUOTE="Martzel94"]

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"] Easily this ^ It has transcended into self-parody. You can quite easily tell the difference between electronica artists, since they tend to stick to stick to their guns. A symphonic metal artist will make thrash, doom and power metal, mixing it all with industrial metal just to make the confusion complete. The whole point of categorizing the metal artists "correctly" disappeared in the turn of the new millenia, never to re-surface...BiancaDK

A symphonic metal artist such as?

Metal might seem like it has the most ridiculous amount of sub-genres, but that is because it is such a varied genre. At some point the amount of sub-genres can become ridiculous but without using terms like death, thrash, black, progressive and so on, it would be impossible to discuss the music.

It's not my fault that some people are not into music as much as others. When discussing metal we use terms that we understand and associate with certain types of sound, it is not our responsibility to use musical terms that everyone else understands. When I say death metal just about all people into metal will straight away know what I am talking about without the need to describe the music in detail. If I am talking to someone new to this type of music I may have to describe it to them, but using sub-genre terms is just much easier and quicker.

And you still haven't answered my question about what symphonic metal artist makes thrash, doom and power metal, mixing it all with industrial metal, I'm just curious.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]metal obviouslyBiancaDK

A symphonic metal artist such as?

Metal might seem like it has the most ridiculous amount of sub-genres, but that is because it is such a varied genre. At some point the amount of sub-genres can become ridiculous but without using terms like death, thrash, black, progressive and so on, it would be impossible to discuss the music.

metallica rode the dave mustaine riff mobile until they ran out of things to steal, then they started their musical decline with master of puppets, and then with and justice for all they attempted to be prog / technical / try a lot of stuff and it backfired on them with the exception of the title track and one. shortest straw and harvester of sorrow being two of their worst pre black songs.nimatoad2000

Don't be ridiculous. You seriously think that all Metallica ever did was rip off Mustaine? :lol:

in the thrash genre, for people that have listened to 50+ bands, metallica is not on their lists anymore, and master of puppets is definately not the album that they rate others against. AJFA is definately not. the more metal you listen to, the more you will realise that metallica is just generic / mediocre. metallica is a metal gateway drug band. except unlike maiden / priest / sabbath many people quickly realize their are much better bands out there.nimatoad2000

Have you even talked to any people who know more than "50 thrash bands"? It doesn't seem so. Don't make up facts nimatoad, the majority of people into thrash respect old Metallica whether you like it or not.

Black Sabbath by far.

[QUOTE="Martzel94"]

I find it funny that some of you name very popular bands and say that they are unknown. If you think that bands like Queens of The Stone Age, Dream Theater or Sigur Rós are not mainstream then I really wander what exactly is an underground band in your opinion. :roll:

Neon-Tiger

You are missing the point of this thread, the TC asked to name unknown bands that you would like to be more popular. Many of the bands mentioned are not unknown.

I find it funny that some of you name very popular bands and say that they are unknown. If you think that bands like Queens of The Stone Age, Dream Theater or Sigur Rós are not mainstream then I really wander what exactly is an underground band in your opinion. :roll:

Some albums on that list are very good, however some are not even death metal. The choices from certain bands are also highly questionable as they seem to lean towards the less aggressive, more groove or more melodic albums, for example Slaughter of the Soul, Heartwork, Wolverine Blues and Diatribes.

I've seen worse lists and I do not expect a pretty mainstream music magazine to mention underground gems but at least they could get their genres right.

[QUOTE="Wakanoid"]

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]If quality of music was simply based on taste then anyone would be able to make music and someone somewhere would enjoy it. There has to be good and bad music by definition. One couldn't just hit 3 notes that don't tonally go together and have it be good.spazzx625

The community decides its, If only a few people like it, then it's ok music. Not many people enjoy that kind, but your rare kind will.

People like taylor swift who I don't like, look how many millions love her, She must be doing good music. Just not my type If you know what I mean?

This, just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good.