i made almost the same topic and everyone hates almost all mainstream notebook products.

im a little shock that voodoo is even in the same class as the rest you listed. if you are maken a lotta money and you get a voodo i think you have the end all be all of notebooks. however they cost almost as much as a top of the line tower and more.

my vote would be for asus g1s b2 notebook.

Go ahead and get the 8800GT,if you do what people tell you to do and wait,you mind aswell wait until the end of time.Indestructible2

get a 52inch or 40incher and injoy.

sit so close to the point when your playing your FPS you will need better peripheral vision!! *flails*

spent $4000 on my Alienware laptop back in '04. Exactly one year later, I was having terrible over heating problems (even though insides were clean and fans were working) to the point were I couldn't play any game for longer than 30 minutes until the computer shut itself off. Scorch marks started to appear on the inside and customer service offered NO help. The only work around was to position a desk fan to blow cool air right on the intake (MAJOR inconvenience). On the two year mark, the laptop was in such terrible condition from all the heat damage that playing any game was almost impossible. Third year I "took it out back".When I first started having this problem, I went to their website and sure enough....MANY others were having this same problem.

Honestly every single laptop I have ever owned (i have owned 5) all suffered from over heating eventually when I used them specifically for games over a long period of time. PersonallyI will never own another laptop, dell, or Alienware computer again.

aschuhart

yes you will never get that zing of a desktop in bite size form. but im a tech geek, i will probly but a UMC later down the road.

plus if i get a good notebook ill have something to bring to cons like PAX.

while i look over RayvinAznsite.

and now i feel a bit better about not going with alienware. Also i kinda feel the asus g1s-b2 might be the ticket.

8600m, 3gb ram, 2.4, 200 gig drive for 1600$

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i've never heard of these guys. ill look into them. as for the gaming part, im not looken for a major machine, infact all i wanted was a machine that would last me more then 2 years and could play wow, battlefield 2142, and probley a few more titles under the bar of crysis.

RayvinAzn

ResellerRatings.com shows them as being an excellent builder, and I've only heard one bad thing about them to date (just a few days ago actually, an apparently damaged CPU cooler where the fin had bent into the path of the fan and was preventing it from spinning - never found out what happend though, the guy just fixed it himself with some pliers). Several users here have bought from them and been very satisfied.

And if that's all the games you want to play, the 8600M GT should easily be up to snuff.

hmm does this site tell how much they weigh and is it just me or does it not have built in wifi?

I agree totally with RayvinAzn. If you are going to have any 8800 in anything, it might as well be a desktop because the power consuption will be too much. You would have to plug it in everytime you want to play a game. But if thts no problem then I suggest the 8800M because its a WAY better card.

TrooperManaic

i hear yeh.

http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=GPS&Product_Code=G1S-B2

this was, what i was looken at.

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also for the custem notebook that was linked. am i to understand that it doesnt have built in wifi? seems kinda stander.

also is Dell still Hell?

A 15" reasonably powerful laptop for 1700-2100?

Bump it up to the T7500 processor, 2x1GB of RAM, and pick out a hard drive based on your needs (I'd stay away from 7200RPM drives for battery life and heat reasons - a good 120GB 5400RPM drive should do the trick nicely), and you're still around $500 under your low-end budget. It comes with a 1-year warranty on parts and lifetime labor, you get to pick your own OS (clean install if you wish), and they'll even install NOD32, one of the best virus scanners on the market, as opposed to the crap most pre-built machines usually come with. I'd probably get the extra battery and wireless card, but even then you're way under budget.

Sure, the graphics card is "only" an 8600M GT. But it's a laptop - gaming is going to kill portability (the whole reason you're getting this laptop), and even when idling the 8800M is going to suck down a lot more power than the 8600M GT. It's a reasonably powerful card that should be able to get most games running reasonably well. And as for the website itself, it's considered one of the best online computer retailers.

RayvinAzn

i've never heard of these guys. ill look into them. as for the gaming part, im not looken for a major machine, infact all i wanted was a machine that would last me more then 2 years and could play wow, battlefield 2142, and probley a few more titles under the bar of crysis.

I dont even like mac but what I am saying is that for theless then theprice as a alien ware notebook you can build your own and get 100% better performance. I mean who wants to spend $4000 dollars on a notebook that cant outperform a custom $2000 notebook.TrooperManaic

ok a custem notebook. oh k. what company? i was hoping for a link to something

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[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]alienware isnt worth the price. They sell their cases for $270 plus cost for light effects. If you order the liquid cooling edition they charge you more for the case. I dont know why because its the same case but less fans. Top alienware $5000 PC that matches a $1200 custom pc. Actually a $1200 custom pc would be better then the alienware if done right.TrooperManaic

didnt know laptops had LC

oh k. lets say you wanted to get a 15inch laptop and your price range was 1700-2100 dollars. No mac books please.

im not trying to put you in a corner with this question. i just want to see your answer as to a product that might even make me happy.