This person has the right idea. It's clearly a bad concept, with 0 benefit yet people somehow defend it.

timma25

Yep, eliminating dupers, hackers and exploiters = 0 benefit. You heard it here first folks.

And my Void Ray destroys your pathetic ultra as it flails it's useless blades to no avail. scar-hawk

I just have to turn around and fart Scourges. Your Void Ray will be easy prey.

Why would you accept "virtual gold" for players in excahnge to the items you sell if can be sold for real money? And why you will focus your interest in playing if you can just buy top tier items with money? And why you will be interested into PvP modes if some people with better wallet bhas equiped themselvers which much better gear than the ones you've obtained in your poor grinding excursions?

MONEY! It will change everything (for worse).

Ondoval

You're kidding yourself if you believe any of this is true and you know it.

Just wait for the game to release and ask you friends who will buy the game how bad that will work.

Back into your Ultralisk Tavern you drink Ultra >:C Don't make me morph into an Overlord and slowly float towards you while wiggling my limp arms!trastamad03

My kaiser blades pierce through your 10 armor, puny larva. I will kill you before you can finish morphing :twisted:

Nay.

Charging for stuff like the horse armor is ridiculous because noone in their right mind would buy it.

Charging for stuff like the Shadow Broker DLC is ridiculous because it's a very important part of the original game and should have been in it in the first place.

No, it will turn a 15 million units sold franchise into a 4-5 million units sold franchise that is leaved by the 80% of players just as 6 months after any big expansions due hardcore players already did everything and softcore players doesn't be longer interested in any about the game, which is what basically WoW is now.

Diablo II is still currently popular despite tha game is over 10 years old and despite it has no major changes since the 1.12 patch and no new content was added at all. None of those achievements will reached by Diablo III, due the gameplay design encourages people to trade in items for money instead of encouraging the people to play to raise their chances of obtain exotic items, whereas in 12 months you can do everything that is possible to do in WoW.

Ondoval

What? Where did you get this from?

If he says people only bought and played it for the mp based on no evidence, who says I can't say that millions bought it for sp?

milannoir

I never said that, learn to read ;)

Uh, Starcraft 2's single player? About that? It's an Online Always DRM. The only "integration" beyond being forced to log online in order to access it for the achievements is, well, the achievements. You can message your friends, I guess, too but it's a large price to pay for such a little reward. Just because you don't play it doesn't mean it isn't there or that people don't like it (If you didn't realize starcraft 2 had a single player portion, you ought to check it out; it's not bad).

Diablo 3 is just capitalizing on the fact not enough ire was drawn from this "online only or watered down game" approach of Starcraft 2 but regardless, people did buy the game for single player. I know I did. So I don't get you. Blizzard is not all about multiplayer. It began with single player. It may be becoming all about multiplayer/online now, I guess, which is kind of sad and even less reason to support them.

And at the heart of blizzard's efforts is to curb piracy, hacking, and cheating. That's all it is. No different from Ubisoft who wants to protect its franchises from piracy, cheating, and hacking.

Except Ubisoft is doing this for SINGLE PLAYER GAMES. Blizzard is doing this for MULTIPLAYER GAMES. There's a flippin huge difference between cheating and hacking in a single player and cheating and hacking in a multiplayer.

It doesn't matter if YOU bought this for the SP. Blizzard blue posters stated times and times again their games are all about the social interaction. Even the SP is integrated with the MP. The hints to this are all over their games.

If you can't get this I don't know what to say. Simply ignore the game and it's a win/win for everyone.

That's a very pretentious thing to say. Only you know how it was meant to be played? Excuse me but you're not me and you're not the boss of me and you sure as hell didn't design the game so you haven't any right to speak down to anyone about how a game was meant to be played. Savvy?

Explain the reasoning behind Blizzard then. Explain why they even signed a contract with Facebook. I'll prepare my popcorn in the meanwhile.

I'm trying insanely hard not to be mean but dude? Bro? Buddy? Starcraft 2 has an extensive single player campaign whose only impact on "multiplayer" is achievements. You can play it offline, sort of, but it's a watered down thing that amounts more to a demo than an actual real game.

I mean the SP is still intrinsically related to the MP.

And what? You just said the only impact the SP has on MP are the achievements then you go ahead and say the offline part is a watered down thing? I am confused.

AncientDozer

Mograine, I realize you fancy Blizzard and fancy yourself as one of the elite, but just because you think you rack up more hours and play harder and know whatever ins and out doesn't mean those who have dissenting opinions have not spent as much or more time as you in a given game. Or that their opinions are invalid. If anything, it shows a sort of bias that robs some credibility from your point.

And he isn't talking about that, you realize; he's on a tangent though why he quoted that particular part is anyone's guess. His point, if you cared to actually examine it, is that there are plenty more people who care about a single player experience than a multiplayer and that they valued the single player aspect OF Diablo. You DO remember you were insisting that the only "real" way to play the game was online, right?

Seriously, though, Mograine. . people who don't kiss the ground Blizzard walks on may still have actual points that are good.AncientDozer

People are raging over something they have completely misunderstood. The "but Ubisoft" comparison proves that.

Blizzard have scratched whole games because they weren't considered of high enough quality to be released with their mark. Whole games. Now that they are thinking of a way to get rid of the exploiters/dupers that infested the Diablo 2 online, people only looks at the negative sides of their decision.

Let me ask you, for people who only plays the SP games, is it a huge deal to be connected for what the SP will last? Realistically, how many do you know that want to play Diablo 3, that only want to play the SP, and that don't have a connection available?

Also, what makes you think that people can't simply patch the game so that it doesn't require a connection? You can do that with SC2.

You said "there are no standalone single portions in Starcraft2 and Diablo3". You also implied in many posts in this thread and others, that nobody bought or played those games for the sp, or that their proportion was insignificant, and thus that the comparison with AC2, a sp game, was invalid.

And I repeat, you are wrong. I personally know people who bought SC2 essentially for the campaign, and had no intention to venture online. Furthermore, some of those people couldn't even be considered 100% pure sp gamers, since I know them from other RTS games' mp.

And I will repeat it one more time, just to see you fail to answer again : provide reliable statistics proving that a huge majority of people do, in fact, buy SC and Diablo purely for the mp.

milannoir

I never said people don't buy Blizzard games for SP, I said that if they do, they have got Blizzard games wrong. I'd like you to quote me on "the proportion of people playing the SP games is insignificant".

You're basing your posts on pulling things out of my mouth. If you don't mind I'll ignore your posts from now on if you don't even take the time to read mine before responding to them.

I didn't fail to answer anything, for I didn't make that claim in the first place.