[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]OH! ok so when a 360 messes up it isn't due to poor design its due to poor design. GotchaFruity_Fantasy

How easy people(cows) forget about the PS2 DREs and Sony's batteries that were used in Dell laptops which cost more than Xbox 360s.

i think discs will hold a future too, HVD will stomp on both blu ray and HD DVD1stCommando

[QUOTE="PaintballinDude"][QUOTE="tacubano"]I think that Microsoft was smart enough not to pic HD-DVD but not have it outside the box, i think they were looking at the big picture and realised that disc would be dead in a few years and that online stores would be the rage to come, and now it had been proven that Itunes and Marketplace are extremely strong. I think that even if either blue-ray or HD DVD win, online rentals will kill either one.-supercharged-

Pizza Hut online delivery ;).. LOL

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]Why argue its useless Blu-Ray is going to win, the real question is how long will it take Blu-Ray to take DVD's placem3Boarder32

So if there was a $200 dollar HD-DVD player available at Walmart, Target, BestBuy, and CircuitCity tomorrow, HD-DVD would still have no chance? The $200 dollar player at those stores is not that far away, Toshiba's HDD1 can already be found for $260 online, and thats brand new, not refurbished.

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]to 360 owners this should be a good thingdemon565

[QUOTE="tacubano"]I think that Microsoft was smart enough not to pic HD-DVD but not have it outside the box, i think they were looking at the big picture and realised that disc would be dead in a few years and that online stores would be the rage to come, and now it had been proven that Itunes and Marketplace are extremely strong. I think that even if either blue-ray or HD DVD win, online rentals will kill either one._en1gma_