[QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

You're wrong.  I just upgraded from a 3.7ghz Phenom II X4 to a 3570k.  Even at stock speeds this thing crushes my old CPU in games that I thought were entirely GPU-bound.  With the overclock the difference is massive.  Yes, there are some games where I gained little or nothing due to being truly GPU-bound, but those are rare.  

hartsickdiscipl

:/ lol

What are you laughing at?  Why don't you buy one and try it yourself?

Breaking news: +25% performance and +250% cost = crushing

[QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

You're wrong.  I just upgraded from a 3.7ghz Phenom II X4 to a 3570k.  Even at stock speeds this thing crushes my old CPU in games that I thought were entirely GPU-bound.  With the overclock the difference is massive.  Yes, there are some games where I gained little or nothing due to being truly GPU-bound, but those are rare.  

hartsickdiscipl

:/ lol

Breaking news: +25% performance and +250% cost = crushing

What are you laughing at?  Why don't you buy one and try it yourself?

[QUOTE="NailedGR"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

I was shocked by how much better Crysis Warhead ran after my CPU upgrade.  10fps is a big deal when you're going from 30 to 40fps.  Not such a big deal when going from 90 to 100.  Judging improvements from upgrades is more about percentage of increase, not the raw number of FPS gained.  Of course you're right about Far Cry 3.. it is more CPU-hungry.  

hartsickdiscipl

25% increase going from a processor that is 3 years old to a brand new one isn't something I would call shocking.

It's a big deal when minimum FPS is significantly higher and there are far fewer dips.  It's also impressive since I didn't upgrade my GPU.  These are games that are typically considered very GPU-bound.  

I'm just saying that a 25% increase after 3 years is not very impressive.  Especially when you consider it is going from a bad sub $70 (lol amd) processor to a good $220 (lol intelzthebest) processor.

that isn't even mentioning the fact that it is a new install of windows vs an old install

again, how is that shocking?

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

I ran the Crysis Warhead "Ambush" benchmark that you did.  Here are my results.  Average of 3 runs-

Settings- 1920x1080, Enthusiast, DX10, No AA

-Minimum FPS- 32.99

-Average FPS- 43.19

3570k@4.5ghz, Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti SOC-950 1GB

 

Far Cry 3 at the same exact settings that you use-

-Average FPS- 52-55

-Minimum FPS- 41 

When I had my 3.7ghz Phenom II X4, I was averaging about 40fps and my minimums were in the high 20's.   

 

hartsickdiscipl

That seems to confirm Far Cry 3 does use the CPU a lot. The gains seem smaller on Warhead with yours having just a 10 fps advantage on both Min FPS (24 fps on mine) and Avg FPS. It seems to indicate a good GPU as a bigger factor. Interesting. 

Well, if I keep to my timetable, I'll assemble a new PC in the latter half of this year. I'll probably wait for AMD's Steamroller and see how it does. Otherwise, I'm going Intel. For the GPU, I alternate between Nvidia and AMD. It was Nvidia last time. The next one will be AMD; hopefully, the 8000 series.

For now though, my current PC is still doing well although Crysis 3 will no doubt overwhelm it.

I was shocked by how much better Crysis Warhead ran after my CPU upgrade.  10fps is a big deal when you're going from 30 to 40fps.  Not such a big deal when going from 90 to 100.  Judging improvements from upgrades is more about percentage of increase, not the raw number of FPS gained.  Of course you're right about Far Cry 3.. it is more CPU-hungry.  

25% increase going from a processor that is 3 years old to a brand new one isn't something I would call shocking.

richland(piledriver enhanced) next quarter, kaveri(steamroller) end of the year

[QUOTE="dramaybaz"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Interesting to see where this goes for Alienware. 

slipknot0129

has went

inb4 hundreds of useless synthetic benchmarks and games at stupid resolutions

Best bang for your buck strictly PC upgrade is a solid state drive - best thing you could do to make your computer as a whole faster. 

Generally for gaming purposes a GPU upgrade is always your best option. 

In your case just buy a new box. 

whitey_rolls

No

Newer Xeons clock up to 3.7Ghz so those should be fine, maybe even better than a desktop CPU, only difference is server chips don't have onchip GPU which is probably a good thing.JohnF111

(//_-)

LED has better colors, I notice this when I got a new display a few months ago.

mitu123

LED and LCD monitors are both actually LCD monitors, the LED part is just the backlight.