http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8IuFl3sMhk

That part at 3:24. It's way too fast. It's in triplets and the notes are too close together for me to play. How do I compromise that part? I can play the rest of the song relatively well.

DragonRebel0908

WOW this songs bringing back memories!

I'd suggest not compromising it. Just play it at a slow, comfortable pace; play it over and over and over again and gradually speed up. If you make a mistake, start from the beginning. Practice practice practice. Eventually you'll get there, and it'll help your overall playing too!

[QUOTE="NaturalJoe"]I also have new photos of myself, does anyone care?andyboiii

;)

I also have new photos of myself, does anyone care?

I'm both.

[QUOTE="NaturalJoe"]

You missed my point entirely. I'm saying why can't WE make a better system, not I. WE, as a society. BRAINSTORM or something! Work together in an everyday circumstance, not only in crisis situations! We don't even have to make something entirely new, just build upon democracy. Don't you realise, there were other systems before democracy, and there will be more after it? Why can't we at least think about these things?!

I completely disagree that this is the best we can get. We still have a ****storm of problems, how can you not see that?

Theokhoth

The systems before democracy kinda failed, as did a few of the systems after it (communism comes to mind). We did get together and brainstorm; the people-run democratic constitutional republic of America was the result. What other forms of government could there possibly be? We've been through anarchy, aristocracy, democracy, communism, fascism, oligarchy, theocracy, timocracy, and everything in between.

There will be a ****storm of problems regardless of the system of government we come up with. Why can't you see that? If you want a system without problems then you'll need to get rid of human nature in the process.

You're right. At least in part. Human Nature needs to be altered. Obviously, I'm not the person to do it. But in my mind, our values, roles and perceptions of society need to change.

EDIT: apologies for the double post.

[QUOTE="NaturalJoe"]

Isn't it obvious?

Religious peoples moral code is the word of their god, therefore it has more value than that of the government. Gods law > Laws of man. So why wouldn't they attempt to impose it upon everyone else?

Don't you see, my salvation is at stake here! They must control me!

(Wow, that last bit was much too much, I think)

ANYWAY. In my insignificant personal opinion, I believe law MUST BE objective, and law MUST BE based on facts. If we are to declare gay marriage unethical, we must present facts as to WHY it is unethical. We must explain why they do not deserve the same rights and protection under the government as everyone else. But that won't be happening. At least not for a while now. Because, as fiscope said, it's boiling down to a popularity contest.

dodgerblue13

In jest and blatent hyperbole.

I was exaggerating, and referring to the ones that regard their religious law as more important than the laws of government. The ones who come knocking on my door and tell me to pray at school. Do you not agree that those ones exist? Regardless, by no means am I speaking in facts. This is gamespot forums, this is not my ideal court of law.

How do you think people will react to a change in the system? Do you think that everyone will enjoy it? Do you think the common man will love getting the little say-so he do has taken away from him? A "better" system is fairy tale. Give government more control and the people will become oppressed. Give the people more control and the next president will be chosen from the winner of a reality TV show. The only way to give the people more of a voice is if they would be able to logically produce intelligent and worthwhile decisions, which would never happen. And increasing the power of the government surely isn't the way to go. There certainly were systems before, during, and after democracy, but when have you heard of a perfect society? You haven't. Don't you realize this? How can you not see that?dodgerblue13

So in your mind, this is it? This is as good as it gets?

Of course it's not going to get easier before it gets better. That doesn't mean we can stop pondering. Sure, a perfect society seems unattainable, but we can at least try to better this system. I Guess I'm just trying to remain positive, because if this is all we can amount to, I must say I'm quite frightened.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="MushroomWig"]Can Athiesm be conidered a religion?mindstorm

That is ridiculous. Those people who want it recognised as a religion don't know what Atheism is. I am no Atheist, but I've actually read about it. Atheism is not the"other" catagory, It's just one explanation among many different non-theistic belief systems. I've found so many people who just throw themselves in the Atheism catagory because they can't answer Christian or Muslim or Jew etc. Please people, at least find out what you're claiming about yourself, and wether or not you actually believe it!

[QUOTE="NaturalJoe"]

That certainly is an interesting point and I'm glad you brought it up. But really, do you regard your subjective passions to be more important than the objective well-being of the rest of your country?

EDIT:

TO elaborate, do you think that your passionate opinions over objective, fact based analysis will be more beneficial?

mindstorm

Gosh. I'm speechless.

Do you have a better system where the people can still vote freely? If so I'd love to hear it. Otherwise, this is the best we can get: people vote based on ideals and what they believe is better for the country.

Theokhoth

You missed my point entirely. I'm saying why can't WE make a better system, not I. WE, as a society. BRAINSTORM or something! Work together in an everyday circumstance, not only in crisis situations! We don't even have to make something entirely new, just build upon democracy. Don't you realise, there were other systems before democracy, and there will be more after it? Why can't we at least think about these things?!

I completely disagree that this is the best we can get. We still have a ****storm of problems, how can you not see that?

Erm, I'm sorry to inform you that the way this country functions allows people to vote on anything they want on any basis they want, religious or otherwise. To say they "have no place in this country" is more against this country than anything that they've done.

And I know this will shock and appall you, but there are atheists/agnostics/spiritualists against gay marriage too.

Theokhoth

Yes but is that really best? Why should we stop at democracy, why can't we continue to persue better methods and evolve on what we have so far. The world isn't perfect, but that doesn't mean we can stop trying.

First off, I don't only worship God within the church building... Second, I support the separation of church and state in the sense that one does not control the other (the state can't force a person into a certain belief system and the nation is not a theocracy). That does not mean I can't have certain views on social issues. Should I instead be hypocritical and support government actions that completely contradict my passions?mindstorm

That certainly is an interesting point and I'm glad you brought it up. But really, do you regard your subjective passions to be more important than the objective well-being of the rest of your country?

EDIT:

TO elaborate, do you think that your passionate opinions over objective, fact based analysis will be more beneficial?