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#1 NaturalJoe
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No way is this true i live in the west of Scotland and my mothers side of the family is Irish. I would of heard about this if it was true.

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Did you not read the many links and information presented in this thread?

Pretty elaborate for an April fools joke. And besides, it's August.

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#2 NaturalJoe
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Isn't it obvious?

Religious peoples moral code is the word of their god, therefore it has more value than that of the government. Gods law > Laws of man. So why wouldn't they attempt to impose it upon everyone else?

Don't you see, my salvation is at stake here! They must control me!

(Wow, that last bit was much too much, I think)

ANYWAY. In my insignificant personal opinion, I believe law MUST BE objective, and law MUST BE based on facts. If we are to declare gay marriage unethical, we must present facts as to WHY it is unethical. We must explain why they do not deserve the same rights and protection under the government as everyone else. But that won't be happening. At least not for a while now. Because, as fiscope said, it's boiling down to a popularity contest.

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#3 NaturalJoe
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ivDW_BU94

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#4 NaturalJoe
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Mark Lanegan and Isobel Campbell -The Flame That Burns... in my pants!

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#5 NaturalJoe
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Oh gosh. Since I was born?!

How about just this year so far:

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (again), The Hobbit (again), Kingdom of Fear, Dracula (again), The Strange Case of Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde (and other strange tales)(again), Necronomicon, I AM LEGEND, Animal Farm, Nineteen Eighty-Four (again), Frankenstein, A Small Killing, From Hell, Watchmen (again), A Dame to Kill For, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (again), The Complete Poetry of Edgar Allen Poe, The Divine Comedy: Inferno (again), Paradise Lost, The Alphabet of Manliness, Stormbringer (again), Catcher in the Rye (again)....

There are a couple of others, but thats all I can think of right now.

EDIT: Oh wait, I just realised I started some of those in November, so lets say my year started from there.

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#6 NaturalJoe
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taking into account i'm the only one on earth with goku's powers, i'll do whatever the **** i want, but in moderation, since i'd get bored of self-gain pretty quick.lonewolf604

This.

If you become that powerful, good and bad are yours to control, muahahaha!

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#7 NaturalJoe
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[QUOTE="cowboymonkey21"]

[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]Honestly, what's the difference between this and the government prohibiting students and teachers praying, bringing the Bible, teachers saying Merry Christmas, or mentioning creation in science classes in schools here in America? Just a thought.ASK_Story

Because this is prohibiting blasphemy all time. Not just in the class, where you teach science because it has hard evidence.

And blasphemy's a good thing? I understand on the concerns about freedom of speech and all that but here in the US, the government thinks saying "Christmas" in schools is offensive yet we can blaspheme all we want and that's okay to them. It makes no sense to me, that's all I'm saying.

It's all a matter of perspective. Must we sacrifice our beliefs for the sensitivity of other peoples beliefs?

Personally, I think religion is a luxury institution that sells piece of mind and purpose to those in our species who desire it, where as the Government is an institution designed to bring structure and order to our society in a way that stagnent beliefs in mystical deities cannot. Religion and Government will never work together. I believe Religion is a side dish, and a better method for education and development is to do thusly:

Only after a child has gone through school to learn the ways of society, can they then choose a religion. The moral obligations and laws of the Government are more important than those of a God that can't be proven to exist.

That is all.

Peace be with you.

EDIT: Damn Glitchy.

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Honestly, what's the difference between this and the government prohibiting students and teachers praying, bringing the Bible, teachers saying Merry Christmas, or mentioning creation in science classes in schools here in America? Just a thought.ASK_Story

Like I said, I brought this article into light because I wanted it to be about freedom of speech.There is a topic already created for the debate between church and state.

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#9 NaturalJoe
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I dont believe it... as in no way can that be true.

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I hope you're right and it isn't true.

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#10 NaturalJoe
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http://www.palibandaily.com/2009/07/09/ireland-makes-blasphemy-illegal/

For the record, I'm hoping this will not be a religious topic and more about attacks on freedom of speech.

Personally, I'm disgusted. What are your thoughts?