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#1 Neoyamaneko
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[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="horgen123"]If that is dressing like a hooker... I think every girl at the school I go dress like one then. :? What deihjan said is what I think of it...

Thank you! Seriously, she looks like a normal 15 year old american female.... Rich, blonde, wears fancy clothes and looks like she spends hours upon hours sculpting her face. I bet she's all Scarlet Pimpel beneath five layers of foundation. *waits for Blackadder fans to sing the song*

Looks like I went to a better class of high school when I was coming up. Do they wear "Do Me" Pumps like Dakota? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpj5giISFbQ&feature=channel_page From the same Letterman interview.
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#2 Neoyamaneko
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Uh, if that's your idea of dressing like a "hooker"...Dark__Link
What 15 year olds have you been hanging out with that wear hip cut skirts and have you been seen on Dateline NBC?
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#3 Neoyamaneko
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I refuse to write in kana, maybe you lazy people should just learn kanji.Famiking
That was to the false beginner Japanese anime fanboys that can't be bothered to even learn hiragana or katakana.
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#4 Neoyamaneko
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[QUOTE="Neoyamaneko"]

...and already dressing like a hooker.

On David Letterman, no less. Nice skirt, I'm sure Chris Hansen would be proud.

Deihjan

It's called having a stylist. And she doesn't look like a hooker, she looks like a plastic. But nonetheless, she's not a hooker.

The hooker skirt she has on says no. You would think her mother would tell her "stylist" that "do me" clothing is a no-no.

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#5 Neoyamaneko
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...and already dressing like a hooker.

On David Letterman, no less. Nice skirt, I'm sure Chris Hansen would be proud.

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#6 Neoyamaneko
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[QUOTE="Neoyamaneko"]

[QUOTE="jointed"] I suggest you read and understand the quote I posted. There's no incongruity in your examples.jointed

And your wiki entry also gives many examples of irony afterwards that wouldn't fall under that rigid description. But then again, that's wiki for you.

What examples are you talking about?

The Gus Grissom, Dice Clay, Ibn al-Haytham, and Jim Fixx ones for starters. In fact, the al-Haytham example is similar to the Phantom example I gave.

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#7 Neoyamaneko
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[QUOTE="Neoyamaneko"][QUOTE="jointed"] No, those are just coincidences. Wiki: "There is some argument about what qualifies as ironic, but all senses of irony revolve around the perceived notion of an incongruity between what is said and what is meant; or between an understanding of reality, or an expectation of a reality, and what actually happens." For example, if you write a book that's meant to convert Christians to atheism, but instead scares them away and makes more people convert to Christianity...THAT's irony.jointed
By what you say, almost ALL situational irony can be viewed as coincidence. Had the system been dubbed "The Phantom" in the midst or after its troubles getting to market, it would be coincidence. However, it was given the name beforehand, making it ironic that they picked a name that ultimately detailed its fate. And just for good measure, Engadget refers to the Phantom debacle as irony as well. The Dead End one, like I said, is often used as an example of cosmic irony with the car wreck sometimes changed for a graveyard.

I suggest you read and understand the quote I posted. There's no incongruity in your examples.

And your wiki entry also gives many examples of irony afterwards that wouldn't fall under that rigid description. But then again, that's wiki for you.

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#8 Neoyamaneko
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[QUOTE="Neoyamaneko"][QUOTE="jointed"]Ok, you never answered my question. Your examples are not examples of irony... which actually makes your thread ironic.jointed
No....it just makes you too lazy to read all the responses in the thread. I answered your question and I'll do it again because I'm just so nice. [quote="neoyamaneko"]Case #1: Situational irony. They called it "The Phantom", a supernatural creature known for being immaterial, and the product never materialized on store shelves. Case #2 : Cosmic irony. Having a fatal wreck in a place where it can be used as a term for the end of your life.

No, those are just coincidences. Wiki: "There is some argument about what qualifies as ironic, but all senses of irony revolve around the perceived notion of an incongruity between what is said and what is meant; or between an understanding of reality, or an expectation of a reality, and what actually happens." For example, if you write a book that's meant to convert Christians to atheism, but instead scares them away and makes more people convert to Christianity...THAT's irony.

By what you say, almost ALL situational irony can be viewed as coincidence. Had the system been dubbed "The Phantom" in the midst or after its troubles getting to market, it would be coincidence. However, it was given the name beforehand, making it ironic that they picked a name that ultimately detailed its fate. And just for good measure, Engadget refers to the Phantom debacle as irony as well. The Dead End one, like I said, is often used as an example of cosmic irony with the car wreck sometimes changed for a graveyard.
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#9 Neoyamaneko
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Ok, you never answered my question. Your examples are not examples of irony... which actually makes your thread ironic.jointed
No....it just makes you too lazy to read all the responses in the thread. I answered your question and I'll do it again because I'm just so nice. [quote="neoyamaneko"]Case #1: Situational irony. They called it "The Phantom", a supernatural creature known for being immaterial, and the product never materialized on store shelves. Case #2 : Cosmic irony. Having a fatal wreck in a place where it can be used as a term for the end of your life.

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#10 Neoyamaneko
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If you want an example of misapplication of the term irony.....check out the song Isn't It Ironic.

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Ahh...good old Morrissettian Irony. I think there was only one real honest to God case of irony in the song.