[QUOTE="Ninja-Kitteh"]You dont know what the word pointless means? :? Without a point. Are you suddenly overcome with understanding? Do my thoughts now suddenly make sense? You know exactly what i'm saying, that's the frustrating thing. GabuEx

No, I don't.

I have absolutely no idea what you mean when you say "pointless", because you are refusing to quantify, define, isolate, or otherwise allow that term to have any semantic meaning whatsoever. If you continue to refuse to define that word, I am going to be forced to lock this thread, as you are steadfastly refusing to allow any discussion of any kind about what you are saying.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Kitteh"]Like i said earlier, the insistance that you guys literally have no clue what i'm talking about until i define what 'meaningful' means is simply a means of having me boil down an abstract point into a concrete logical one which is easily refuted by another concrete piece of logic so the argument can be won. Woo!GabuEx

I cannot express in words the irony that you chastised rawsavon for being presumptuous and are now refusing to answer the most basic question one can ask on the presumption of ulterior motives...

What exactly is the harm in defining a word so that people can actually discuss what you are saying? I mean, what is the point of this topic if you don't want people to discuss anything you've said?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Kitteh"]Again Gabu you ask for a solution. Just because a person finds an exercise trivial or tiresome does not mean they are capable of making it the opposite. :? Here is the problem with us: I am saying that i think life is pointless, and explaining why i feel that way, then opening the floor to others to share their thoughts. They may feel life is not pointless. They may have shared my thoughts at one time or another. They may offfer advice, or another perspective. You on the other hand, wish not to add your own opinion or respond to mine, but instead to somehow logically debase the thoughts of my own mind. I just dont get it.GabuEx

I am not asking for a solution. I am asking for you to simply tell me what you mean by "pointless". Why are you putting up such iron-clad defenses against the request to simply define a word you are using such that others can understand what you are saying? It does not make any sense whatsoever.

OK, I seriously don't understand how you can define a life as meaningless without knowing what a meaningful life is to compare the two, unless you are just vacuously dismissing all life no matter what as being meaningless. If so, that's fine for a personal definition. Depressing and nihilistic but consistent. Otherwise, as Gabu said, it's words that convey no substantive information. I have no interest in "proving" you wrong, since as I've stated, I consider meaning to be something that is constructed. For people who fail to construct their own meaning, life absolutely can be meaningless. However, your statements as presented thusfar don't seem particularly coherent, but rather to indicate a vague dissatisfaction with your life and your perception of other peoples' lives. I'm trying to nail that down into something more concrete, but that clearly isn't going to happen.xaos

[QUOTE="Ninja-Kitteh"]Again you insist upon this ridiculous reasoning of 'i have no idea of knowing what you're talking about!' I'll repeat myself for the tenth time then: Recently, i gave my life and life itself some serious thought from an 'outsider' perspective and concluded that society as i know it grooms us into a life of work, earn, spend, die. That's what we all do, or the vast majority at least. We get up, go to work, earn money and buy cool stuff. Most of that stuff is material, trivial, and pointless. Such a life, in my point of view, is pointless, and as we become more and more entrenched in this way of living, life becomes more and more pointless. That is my point of view. Now proceed to tell me that you have no idea what i'm talking about. GabuEx

And why is that pointless?

And what would make it have more of a point?

Unless you can answer these questions, what you are saying is meaningless (no pun intended).

It sounds to me you perceive your life as having no purpose, when in reality you just have yet to find out what that is.

poptart

[QUOTE="Ninja-Kitteh"]Gabu you are trying to win an argument which i am not participating in, nor ever did or ever intended to.xaos

Which has nothing to do with the fact that condoms can give people a false sense of security. Which was the essence of the quote he brought into the discussion....and was not saying what he assumed it said.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Risk is risk.....LJS9502_basic