Damn, take it to messages, no one cares who is wrong or right. Also, MARIO doesn't feel different
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[QUOTE="DoctorWho88"] Well this is a heated debateglitch2424
Not really. I was just responding to what the poster said. Why bother posting a response at all if you are not going to go into details? The poster had criticisms against a few games, and I tried to answer them. I could have been a bit nicer about it, but the poster's criticsm against Uncharted could be used for any game, so it does not hold that much weight. If a person believes that a game is not good because it uses the same core mechanics over and over again for the entire franchise, then I would say that this person should just quit playing games as a whole. He or she is going to find that sequels do tend to use the same core mechanics as the original game. This is due to the fact that the original game is where everything was put into place. Developers are not going to start from scratch for every iteration of a franchise. I cannot think of one franchise that does not reuse some mechanics in its sequels. I would love to know if such a franchise exists.
Ugh, big wall of text. I'll put it nice and sweet:
1) That statement that you can use that for any franchise is false. Mario always did something differently, and the 2d and 2.5d mario games feel totally different in terms of control and gameplay type. Super mario 1 (SM1) was very basic run and jump, SM3 added ALOT more powers that totally changed up the gameplay (eg, flying?), which added more room for tranversal and degrees of freedom. SMW added yoshi and different controls as well to how mario flies and handles (eg, running up walls, floating, fence climbinb [where mario will be hanging middair on a gate], sucking up things with yoshi [ie, totally eliminating a sprite from the field-of-view only to reintroduce the sprite as bullet back into the game world]). Same with Halo series, a big relevant shooter. Halo 1: innovative interms of gameplay mechanics, such as introducing unique weapons that act differently, and reintegrating melee attacks and vehicle handing in console games. It was the first to introduce a really EXCELLENT AI that made the player react instead of getting reacted to, making all the game mechanics mentioned above all the more significant. Halo 2: introduced dual wielding, and the "innovative" regenerating shield that changed the flow of combat, and a higher jump that introduced some platforming elements. Halo 3: refined all the rest of the gameplay mechanics, including how you CONTROL dual wielding. Hi, I'm a REAL game designer, and I'll be your guide that will show you how to REALLY analyze games, instead of using a general statement "ohhh that argument can be used for any game!".
Seriously, we're comparing innovation of 2D Mario to Uncharted? How about compare what the 3D Mario's did differently (in the same console generation no less)rather than the 2D ones that were releasing at a time when you could add just about anything at that point and call it innovative.
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