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#1 PandaBear86
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[QUOTE="PandaBear86"] Its not the release date that I am concerned with. Its the fact that IBM PowerPCs are very inefficient. Even the recent PowerPC chips are lagging behind the competition when it comes to cost/size-to-performance ratio. This is a matter of PowerPC chips being poor, not release dates.clone01
But wouldn't you say its new technology vs. older?

New PowerPC vs new CPU from either Intel or AMD = PowerPC still fails regardless of age. Having an older PowerPC simply adds more insult to injury.
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Digital distribution and physical retail will co-exist side-by-side. Anybody who uses the word "replace" isn't thinking clearly enough. There are several problems with 100% digital distribution: 1) Not everybody has a credit card. How do you expect 10-year olds to buy games for their PC using Steam? 2) Physical retail stores are free advertisement for games. When I go to the shops to buy groceries, I have to walk past a gaming store. That means free advertising just from walking past it. I have bought several games this way 3) Some people just like having physical things in their hands, rather than something on a cloud. 4) Physical retail boxes are cool for buying as gifts for your family and friends. Buying somebody a game from Steam as a gift isn't the same. You need something physical. 5) Second hand market Digital distribution is cool and all, but I don't want to be 100% the ONLY way to buy games. Give us the otpion to buy either the box or download, and everybody is happy.
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="stvee101"]

Wow so the latest hardware is more powerful than six year old hardware.

Mind = Boggled.

Except that it costs the same as the Xbox 360/PS3 and performs better in games.

you release that 90% of the cost for 360 and ps3 is likely casing?

I should have known that my PS3 was gold-plated :P
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[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="clone01"] Cool can't wait to play all my Nintendo exclusives on the Wii. And something that just came out beats something made in 2006? Wow.clone01

You are misunderstanding it. The new Llano chip is designed to be a tiny, low-cost chip. It was not designed to be a direct competitor to PS3/360 chips, yet it still beats them. If a "baby" chip can beat PS3/360, then imagine what a high-end chip can do?

And when was it released?

Its not the release date that I am concerned with. Its the fact that IBM PowerPCs are very inefficient. Even the recent PowerPC chips are lagging behind the competition when it comes to cost/size-to-performance ratio. This is a matter of PowerPC chips being poor, not release dates.
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Ladies and gentlemen... the online revolution from Nintendo... introducing... UNIFIED FRIEND CODES! lol j/k :P
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[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Ad. 1080p - its completely in the hands of developers if they decide to optimise their games on 1080p or not. Its always a dilema - higher resolution, or more and better effects? What is (hypothetically) better - 1080p without AA or 720p with 4x AA? Will we have more open spaces and more action on the screen in 720p or less in 1080p? On current consoles, the computing power is on a level where most devs decided to stick with 720p (or even sub HD) to achieve better effects etc. Nintendo will be much more powerful so its completely possible that corridor shooters like CoD will run in 1080p with decent AA and will look stunning, but a little bit more open world games like Crysis 1 will run at 720p (and again - will look stunning). Why would Nintendo bind developers by some rules like "Every single game on N6 must be 1080p."? That would be silly.

If you think that they just add some magical circuit that will make it 1080p without changing anything else, you completely dont understand how consoles (and PCs) work. Thats why I laughed when I read about Wii HD rumors - "it will be same as Wii, but with HD" - lol, not possible. :)

savagetwinkie

I do not think that Nintendo will allow third party developers to decide on anything at all? What about allowing developers to use 3-D or acheivements? Nintendo stated they did not care about 3-D or achievements, meaning they won't offer it to developers who are interested in it Why would they suddenly turn around and offer 1080p? :P

you don't offer 1080p, if nintendo's console can output in 1080p, then the dev can render it in 1080p, and if this is supposed to be wii hd then there is no reason not to have it.

If it can handle 1080p, then it should easily handle 3-D in 720p. Yet Nintendo stated they have no interest in supporting 3-D, despite the fact that the console is physically capabale of it. Do you really think Nintendo will give third party devs the option of anything? No, Nintendo are the only ones who are allowed to make decisions because they are very strict with their hardware.

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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

cool cant wait to play uncharted 3 on it

cool can't wait to play Starcraft 2 on my PS3.

Cool can't wait to play all my Nintendo exclusives on the Wii. And something that just came out beats something made in 2006? Wow.

You are misunderstanding it. The new Llano chip is designed to be a tiny, low-cost chip. It was not designed to be a direct competitor to PS3/360 chips, yet it still beats them. If a "baby" chip can beat PS3/360, then imagine what a high-end chip can do?
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[QUOTE="PandaBear86"] Hope that turns out to be true. PowerPCs are soooo outdated, some of their tech is from the 90's! The only benefit of PowerPC chips is backwards compatibility with previous consoles that used the chip (Wii, Gamecube, 360, etc). But even with BC, I would totally recommend not using it.lowe0

Yeah! They should totally ditch that ancient PowerPC for x86! Uh, wait, when was x86 created again? The 70s? Well, scratch that - maybe they should just use some of those processors that IBM used to make Watson, the computer that whipped humanity's ass red and raw on Jeopardy. Oh, wait, those are PowerPC? Damn.

PowerPCs are the most power-hungry, expensive CPUs in the market. Sure there are lots of new revisions, but still, they are nowhere near as good as x86. Don't even bother trying to deny it.
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#9 PandaBear86
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"]

One of the main weaknesses of the Wii was the fact that it only had 512mb of Flash memory. Well fear not, since the Project Cafe will support a massive 8gb of Flash memory. 320gb hard drives are so last gen.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/03/wii-2-rumors-only-8gb-of-storage-25gb-discs-and-1080p-isnt-a/

So yeah, if this report turns out to be true, then don't expect the Project Cafe to have good online apart from unified Friend Codes. Knowing Nintendo, I wouldn't be surprised if it is true. Plus no 100% guarantee of 1080p at this stage :|

Ad. 1080p - its completely in the hands of developers if they decide to optimise their games on 1080p or not. Its always a dilema - higher resolution, or more and better effects? What is (hypothetically) better - 1080p without AA or 720p with 4x AA? Will we have more open spaces and more action on the screen in 720p or less in 1080p? On current consoles, the computing power is on a level where most devs decided to stick with 720p (or even sub HD) to achieve better effects etc. Nintendo will be much more powerful so its completely possible that corridor shooters like CoD will run in 1080p with decent AA and will look stunning, but a little bit more open world games like Crysis 1 will run at 720p (and again - will look stunning). Why would Nintendo bind developers by some rules like "Every single game on N6 must be 1080p."? That would be silly.

If you think that they just add some magical circuit that will make it 1080p without changing anything else, you completely dont understand how consoles (and PCs) work. Thats why I laughed when I read about Wii HD rumors - "it will be same as Wii, but with HD" - lol, not possible. :)

I do not think that Nintendo will allow third party developers to decide on anything at all? What about allowing developers to use 3-D or acheivements? Nintendo stated they did not care about 3-D or achievements, meaning they won't offer it to developers who are interested in it Why would they suddenly turn around and offer 1080p? :P
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#10 PandaBear86
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[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]From what I've read MS has already signed contracts with AMD to use future Fusion technology in their next Xbox. KC_Hokie
Hope that turns out to be true. PowerPCs are soooo outdated, some of their tech is from the 90's! The only benefit of PowerPC chips is backwards compatibility with previous consoles that used the chip (Wii, Gamecube, 360, etc). But even with BC, I would totally recommend not using it.

You can use different CPUs and be backwards compatibility. You can't use different GPUs though without heavily emulation.

True. I am confident in BC with new chips like this, although I still have my doubts because PS3 was never BC with PS2 games here in Australia (we never got the original BC 60gb PS3). Still, I can hope for the best. I am just worried the Wii 2 (Project Cafe) will use PowerPCs, because it will be huge, expensive, power-hungry, etc.