@Wraith3: It's really not that terrible of an idea. If they had taken time from the beginning to develop Rey as a decendent of Palpatine, making her heir to the Sith, it could have worked as a really good plot point.
As much as I enjoyed the game, I couldn't even finish it because it just took too damn long. I don't think I could even consider this new one with how much longer it's probably going to be.
@todddow: I would also say that the general movie going audience doesn't typically care about the same things as movie critics. When critics talk about films, they tend to talk about the construction of the film, the things that go into making it and what works from a fundamental level. When critics loved TLJ, it was for the reasons you say, they saw something different a franchise that is typically formulaic. That may be the big difference between what fans wanted and what critics enjoyed. You can look at Luke to see this.
Fans hated what the film did with Luke, as it changed much of what they expected for his character. It defied what they wanted and the direction they thought the film should have gone with Luke. Critics, on the other hand, praised the direction, seeing it has something that defied expectation and took Luke's character in a more interesting direction. I don't think either side is wrong, it's just a difference of what people expect and want out of the franchise, though I personally side with the critics and very much enjoy the defiance of expectations and changes to the usual formula.
One of the things I like about being a fan-lite of the franchise is that these films not meeting some kind of monumental expectation makes them enjoyable for me as I watch them. It's what I went through with the prequels. Did I love those movies? No, not at all. Do I recognize the poor quality of them? Sure. Did I enjoy them as I watched them? Yes, yes I did. I also really liked TFA and TLJ. What fans tend to complain about doesn't bother me, and in TLJ I was able to look beyond what most fans have complained about to recognize the good job done with character development and the relationships between characters, a lot of what critics recognized and liked about the film (as well as the swerves the film took with SW tropes). I have little expectations for this final film besides once again enjoying myself at the theater. To some, this franchise is a religion. Fine, I guess it sucks watching something so beloved crash and burn. But, as I've repeated a few times here, fans also haven't praised a core SW film since Empire, so it seems they really can't be happy with these films which will probably never meet their expectations. Thankfully, there is a pretty well developed EU, even in Disney's hands, what with The Mandelorian, SW Jedi, and Rogue One.
@fedor: He's right though. The fans haven't been happy since Empire. Return is heavily criticized, the entire prequel trilogy was hated, TFA was tolerated, and TLJ was despised. Fans absolutely love the EU and will consume whatever Star Wars they can get, but when it comes to the core films, they've been hypercritical, and it's mostly because they just didn't get what they wanted. The fans never would have been satisfied because no one filmmaker or studio could ever give them exactly what they were looking for in a SW film. TLJ did a lot of things right and critics, people who review films for a living and typically know what goes into good filmmaking, recognized those things. Maybe those things didn't work for SW fans, but it does illustrate just how rabid the fanbase can be. Just look at the toxic behavior directed towards Kelly Marie Tran for no justifiable reason.
@todddow: The fanbas hasn't liked a SW movie since Empire. That they hate TLJ means very little because it really doesn't take much to get the fanbase to hate something SW. Yes, they give certain movies a pass, but Return and Revenge seem more tolerated or condensed into the whole of the package than being praised. Which is why I've always taken fan reaction to TLJ as passe. It's one of the few movies I've sided with critics over fans on. That this film seems to do nothing for anyone doesn't really mean much. Most 'fans' seem over the Skywalker saga at this point and ready to move on to whatever is next.
@GalvatronType_R: I'd say not for Star Wars though. It doesn't matter how bad it is, it will make it's money. The exception seems to be Solo, which did poor, but only because it's a film no one really care about anyway. But this film's already broken record for early ticket sales, so it's essentially critic proof. Critics can bash it all they want, I don't think Disney really cares at this point.
@tlpina: But this is a perfected version of the game. The atmosphere is significantly improved and far more tense. Yes, it's a remake, but it's a remake along the lines of The Thing. A LOT about the original game changed, enough that it feels like something completely new and something dramatically better.
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