I remember that game Tombi its called where I live, yeh i had it but don't have it anymore. I always remember the game because the main charatcer goes around like a cave man with pink hair and if I remember correctly weren't the enemies pigs? I actually miss that game when I think about it.stike22

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I didn't mean in it in that exact context, but I mean the technical advances wont encourage that many gamers to make the switch to the DSi. Anyways, I think new DS games will help sell the DSi, but not to those casuals who already own a DS, I don't think it'll do anything for them. Gaming not being their strongest interest, I can't see them paying what the did for the DS again for the DSi. That is unless some camera specific game is released and really creates a buzz like Brain Training did.

As well, I never personally saw the DS as a stop gap between GameBoys. Being hyped around the same time as the PSP gave the impression that the two consoles would be going head to head for some time. That and the leap was the biggest Nintendo Handheld leap in my opinion. The two screens, one of them being a touch screen, and the fact they were boasting 3D gaming on par with the N64. I just see that as a huge leap. The leap between the DS and DSi is more comparable to the GameBoy and GameBoy Colour. Fair enough the Colour had an exlusive library of games and lasted 3 years, but compared to the lifespan of the original GameBoy it didn't last long did it? Come to think of it, the GameBoy Advance only lasted 3 years as well. And now I don't remember where I was trying to go with all this lol.

I guess I just don't believe the technical leap of the DSi can make it stand out as it's own console. I see it rather as an extension of the original DS concept. Much like the GBA SD is to the GBA and the GBC was to the GameBoy. It may have a few exclusives, though most likely making simple use of the camera features, but I can't see it being expanded upon more than that. Maybe there will be a collection of downloadable games and applications, but that'll surely be to used to attract more casual gamers who are considering getting an iPhone, regardless of what Nintendo are saying.

Nomoreblasphemy

1. The DSi is not and never will be a new system

2. DSi games won't just be regular DS game that use the camera. That makes NO SENSE AT ALL(seriously,NONE AT ALL!!!!). As stated in another thread, they'll have better textures, more objects, better sound quality, better physics/AI, and better animations. Considering the DSi's potential, making silly camera games would be a waste of time and money. They'll most likely be greater in qualitybut few in numbers.

3. Just becausesome people won't be able to play DSi games, it doesn't mean that devs will only make simple games that aren't worth anyone's time just so the minority won't get angry.

There's a few more things, but I don't feel like explaining...

Your second point just sounds like wishful thinking, which to be fair is only trying to counter my cynisism. We'll get nowhere arguing, but what the hell? Sure the DSi has this little extra power, but unless the majority of gamers put down their DS and pick up a DSi it doesn't mean anything. You don't need a faster processor to improve AI or physics. As some one studying Game Development at University I can tell you that first hand. Sure it can help a more powerful game engine run smoother, but a simple enough solution just takes some decent game logic and a good programmer to sort both of those issues out. Then you have to consider what sorts of physics advancment you really need for a handheld console that compares to the original Playstation and N64. How many DS games out there can you really improve on and why would they sell any better as a result? That and then you have the obvious reason the the extra processing power, which is there to support the camera and the game at the same time.

At the minute, and quite unlike darth psychosis, you sound like you're defending something with wishful thinking, which is both near impossible and a waste of time. Fair enough i'm attacking something with cynisism, but it's always better to expect the worst and be pleasantly suprised rather that expect it all and be massively disapointed. If the DSi ever becomes worthwhile, which at the minute it isnt, then it would have proved me wrong itself. It doesn't need defending from people who can only argue potential and possibilities.

Sorry about my tone in this message, but I saw your signature and took personal offence.

I didn't mean in it in that exact context, but I mean the technical advances wont encourage that many gamers to make the switch to the DSi. Anyways, I think new DS games will help sell the DSi, but not to those casuals who already own a DS, I don't think it'll do anything for them. Gaming not being their strongest interest, I can't see them paying what the did for the DS again for the DSi. That is unless some camera specific game is released and really creates a buzz like Brain Training did.

As well, I never personally saw the DS as a stop gap between GameBoys. Being hyped around the same time as the PSP gave the impression that the two consoles would be going head to head for some time. That and the leap was the biggest Nintendo Handheld leap in my opinion. The two screens, one of them being a touch screen, and the fact they were boasting 3D gaming on par with the N64. I just see that as a huge leap. The leap between the DS and DSi is more comparable to the GameBoy and GameBoy Colour. Fair enough the Colour had an exlusive library of games and lasted 3 years, but compared to the lifespan of the original GameBoy it didn't last long did it? Come to think of it, the GameBoy Advance only lasted 3 years as well. And now I don't remember where I was trying to go with all this lol.

I guess I just don't believe the technical leap of the DSi can make it stand out as it's own console. I see it rather as an extension of the original DS concept. Much like the GBA SD is to the GBA and the GBC was to the GameBoy. It may have a few exclusives, though most likely making simple use of the camera features, but I can't see it being expanded upon more than that. Maybe there will be a collection of downloadable games and applications, but that'll surely be to used to attract more casual gamers who are considering getting an iPhone, regardless of what Nintendo are saying.

Best avoid buying from people in Hong Kong. I did some reading on it and Hong Kong users tend to sell many fake games.

Dr_Snood