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#1 RaptorPen
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[QUOTE="RaptorPen"]I really like living with her though and she likes me living with her. Its a good relationship. Why should I move out just because society says I have to? airshocker

It's a fire-hazard? How many people are living in that tiny apartment?

Its not an apartment its a house. Two bedrooms. The children get their own room so there is plenty of space.

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#2 RaptorPen
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Free lance work at 25?? Time for you to get a full time job and leave your Mom's apt.

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I really like living with her though and she likes me living with her. Its a good relationship. Why should I move out just because society says I have to?
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#3 RaptorPen
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[QUOTE="M4Ntan"]

[QUOTE="Setsa"] Personally, I'd rather live than never be born. If you're taking a pro-choice stance though, then you really can't support the OP because he's trying to force someone else to do something with her body that she's not comfortable with. How would you feel if people pressured you into getting a vasectomy?Setsa

He cannot force her to do anything, he can just let her know his opinion and how they cannot afford another kid, even if they have mental disabilities.

Yeah, but NO ONE has that right to push their beliefs on someone if they've made a life-choice like that. Yeah, you and the OP may think it's an ignorant choice, but you can't oblige someone to do something with their body that they don't want. It's the same as someone pushing their metaphysical/political opinion on you after you've made it clear of your views in each respect. From the OP, it sounds like the mother has already made her choice, and as a 25 year-old adult, the OP is free to leave the household if he doesn't like the conditions he'll be living in. It sounds cold, but you can't dictate someone's life like that.

The messed up thing is that she isn't even considering the views of the father on this matter. He lives with her and he isn't exactly capable of supporting the family but she is just completely disregarding his views on the matter.
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If you're 25, may I ask how old your mom is?

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She's 40 but her two children are 5 and 4 respectively. I have a GED and do freelance graphic design from the home.
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#5 RaptorPen
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Excuse the rather harsh title but my family is currently facing an existential crisis.

I'm 25 and the older brother to two developmentally and physically impaired children. Her husband died 5 years ago but my mother quickly found another partner who she felt reminded her of him. My mother and her new lover who despite not being able to marry (he was still technically married and didn't want to divorce so he could keep health benefits) had two children together.

Despite my pleading for my mother to consider other options she decided to go ahead and carry them to term. I'm not going to lie they are a drain on this family financially and mentally.

Now my mother is pregnant for a 3rd time and due to her strong beliefs on abortion refuses to consider it insisting that something will come along. We are living in a one bedroom subsidized housing and are financially at the brink. We pretty much knew there was a good chance the first two would end up the way they did and now its happened again.

Should I attempt to convince my mother to consider other options? Its still very early on. Less than a month. Am I being unfair to her here?

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Welcome to existentialism!RationalAtheist
If you don't mind me asking in what way is what I'm describing existentialism? I'm not saying that I feel that life is absurd or without any meaning other than what we give it but rather that I can't see the cause of or reason for my powerful sense of individual experience.

Why am I seemingly arbitrarily experiencing life through the body and mind of a random human and not an alien or an elephant?

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So basically on paper the idea of each human having their own individuality makes sense but to be one of those people experiencing life vividly and subjectivley at an arbitrary place in space and time seems to be without any obvious cause.

Why does my individual conciousness feel so vivid to the point where as far as I can tell everything else could be fake but I know at least that I am real? Its as if the universe might as well have not existed until I came along.

If there is no real reason for this is it possible that any sense of self is just an illusion or at least not really seperate from other "individual" minds?

I hope I made sense but this stuff keeps me up at night.

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I think this generation of old people has alot to live up to compared to the previous generation of old people
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#10 RaptorPen
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[QUOTE="RaptorPen"]I have to ask what is the purpose of all this. What good will come out of such "science" I'm much happier just assuming that all of the stars in the sky are just christmas trees that are really far away and its gotten me through several grades of school just ifnedramaybaz

I suppose we are one of those that want to know how and why is everything around us, and how it all works.

Edit: Knowledge is Power!

Why did scientists want to know about gravity, what good has it done for us?

I don't need gravity to explain why my pizza rolls come out of the microwave tasty and delicious. Why does science feel the need to explain everything. Some things are just better left mysteries