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#1 Ravenshout
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[QUOTE="Ravenshout"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] why are seath and ceaseless discharge cheap and gimmicky?BrunoBRS

 

1. Seath: I hit the 'radiating crystal thing' and just whacked him till death. However, he would regenerate his HP if one does not shatter the radiating object before, and he's a pushover, at least on normal difficulty, once you've shattered the said object. That's gimmicky. Forcing the player to 'solve' the boss is gimmicky. 

2. Ceaseless Discharge: I went through the path that meets with another path (the one that leads to the black pyromancy robe set) and stood at the meeting (just in front of big rock/ block). The tip of his appendage lands just in front of it when he slams onto the ground. So in my case I just stood there hit it before he raised it back. Rinse and Repeat. 

"having to put thought into it is gimmicky". you're pitiful, you know that?

Shattering a crystal that will win you the battle is not a strategy. 

Ornstein+Smough fight is what I call a fight that requires thought and reflexes.

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#2 Ravenshout
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[QUOTE="Ravenshout"]

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

Which bosses are "cheap and gimmicky"? :?

Peredith

Bed of Chaos, Seath the Scaleless, Ceaseless Discharge. 

I'll give you Bed Of Chaos ( :x ), but Seath and CD were neither cheap or gimmicky in my opinion

Well, Seath and Discharge are less gimmicky, but I could still sense a tinge of gimmick when battling them. 

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#3 Ravenshout
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

 

I beat the entire game alone too :) it's the best way to play through it first time I think. Really gives you a sense of isolation and hopelessness

mitu123

Same here!

I thought you wouldn't play games that don't push your hardware to the limits. 

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#4 Ravenshout
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[QUOTE="Ravenshout"]

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

Which bosses are "cheap and gimmicky"? :?

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Bed of Chaos, Seath the Scaleless, Ceaseless Discharge. 

why are seath and ceaseless discharge cheap and gimmicky?

 

1. Seath: I hit the 'radiating crystal thing' and just whacked him till death. However, he would regenerate his HP if one does not shatter the radiating object before, and he's a pushover, at least on normal difficulty, once you've shattered the said object. That's gimmicky. Forcing the player to 'solve' the boss is gimmicky. 

2. Ceaseless Discharge: I went through the path that meets with another path (the one that leads to the black pyromancy robe set) and stood at the meeting (just in front of big rock/ block). The tip of his appendage lands just in front of it when he slams onto the ground. So in my case I just stood there hit it before he raised it back. Rinse and Repeat. 

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Which bosses are "cheap and gimmicky"? :?

Peredith

Bed of Chaos, Seath the Scaleless, Ceaseless Discharge. 

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#6 Ravenshout
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

The boss that took me the longest/ was most challenging was probably, Four Kings. It was a tough fight.

I don't really think any of the bosses in the game were cheap. even Priscilla was perfectly doable.  And they actually, for the most part, got easier as the game went on. I beat Nito with hardly breaking a sweat, I beat Seath on my second try (took a while to get to him though ebcause I kept dying on the way to him because my controller is screwy), I beat Capra Demon and Twin Gargoyles on my first try, I beat Bed of Chaos on my third try (more of a puzzle really) I beat Pinwheel on my first try.

The game is hugely misconcieved as being impossibly difficult. As long as you take things slow, be cautious and only take risks when you're certain they'll pay off, the game is far from impossible. If you play stupidly, sure, the game is uber tough, but I found it to be highly exaggerated, because it jsut forces you to take your time rather than rushing through.

That being said, Gwyn was also a pretty tough boss. But even then I got a pretty good strategy built around my character and he fel in... Six tries I think?

Lulekani

So how does one experiment with new Ideas under those conditions ? Despite the various strategies available it still seems like theres only one effecient way for beating each encounter

Actually, most strategies are just variants of two main ways to play to game: as a ranged character, or a melee-centric character. 

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I'm very interested in the story behind this game.  It looks like it could be a very rich world to play in.

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Makes me intrigued. The animation could have been better, though.

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Why?:P

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#9 Ravenshout
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[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Bed of Chaos.

BrunoBRS

bed of chaos is easier than pinwheel, because every inch of progress you make remains even after you die. so it's nigh impossible to NOT beat it in 3 or so tries (one for each node).

Pinwheel is a pushover, in my opinion. Bed of Chaos is one of the most irritating, arduous fights in the game since travelling across the lava lake to it each time you die is an unnecessary hassle.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

The boss that took me the longest/ was most challenging was probably, Four Kings. It was a tough fight.

I don't really think any of the bosses in the game were cheap. even Priscilla was perfectly doable.  And they actually, for the most part, got easier as the game went on. I beat Nito with hardly breaking a sweat, I beat Seath on my second try (took a while to get to him though ebcause I kept dying on the way to him because my controller is screwy), I beat Capra Demon and Twin Gargoyles on my first try, I beat Bed of Chaos on my third try (more of a puzzle really) I beat Pinwheel on my first try.

The game is hugely misconcieved as being impossibly difficult. As long as you take things slow, be cautious and only take risks when you're certain they'll pay off, the game is far from impossible. If you play stupidly, sure, the game is uber tough, but I found it to be highly exaggerated, because it jsut forces you to take your time rather than rushing through.

That being said, Gwyn was also a pretty tough boss. But even then I got a pretty good strategy built around my character and he fel in... Six tries I think?

turtlethetaffer

you can parry gwin. it's hilarious when you fight him in a group, because the other guys can still hack away during the riposite animation.

Yeah my strategy consisted of staying jsut at the tip of his sword and only attacking when he tried to grab me or throw me.

I beat the entire game by myself since I'm offline, although I summoned phantoms a few times.

Phantoms cheapen the experience, in my opinion. The only time I summoned one was when I had difficulty battling the Gargoyle on the roof of Undead Parish. I also never summon an ally.