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#2 RecklessTortuga
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="GameShtopper"]

Why do the sales of Uncharted 3 matter to you? Does that determine the quality of the game? Well, seeing how you keep lauding the 7.2% sales lead the Xbox 360 has over the PS3, I can understand why.

And for crying out loud, why the hell do dip****s keep supporting Activision?

What have they done that is GOOD for the industry?

BF3, on the other hand, is something that shouldn't go unnoticed. EA hasn't been as bad, but then again, they've been giving me free extra content on my Blu-ray discs.

GameShtopper

because people don't have the same tastes as you they are bad for gaming? If they are so popular you'd have to say they are good for gaming by pulling people in?

How's this-

I've seen Xbox 360 gamers (not particularly on this board) say "Why won't Rare make a new Killer Instinct?" or "Why is Valve incorporating Steam into the PS3 version of Portal 2 and not for the 360 version?"

My response is: Microsoft already knows that their gamers will continue to buy their product no matter how much they aren't delivering. If you wanted a new Killer instinct or Perfect Dark, you SHOULD NOT have purchased Kinect Sports. If you wanted additional content for a particular multiplatform game that you were interested in, you SHOULD NOT even buy the game until Microsoft has to do something to sway you into purchasing it.

But of course, there are a lot of ignorant people in the world and they can't understand the simple task of supply and demand. They aren't demanding it, so Microsoft isn't supplying it.

Sony, on the other hand is losing, hard. Them losing is to MY BENEFIT.

So you guys can keep touting those superior sales of the Xbox 360; that gives Microsoft less incentive to give you a better experience. But you are okay with that. And so am I, because I jumped that sinking ship.

Not to mention that, Microsoft refused to give into BlueRay even after their investment in HDDvD failed... Even after 360 owners and websites alike, touted at the idea that microsoft should make an attachable peripheral (if not internal) like they did with the HDDvD drive, microsoft still refused to do what would altimatly make their gamers happy; Paying for online is a joke... They couldn't even come up with a legitimate reason as to why they would charge gamers for something that's free on everyother platform... At least, Xbox owners get a free DvD player this time and not have to buy for a seperate peripheral like with the original Xbox... ...I mean seriously, what the hell was that?!?!
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#3 RecklessTortuga
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Seems like lemmings are on damage control because they have no games. Lots of them using blu ray player as an excuse is laughable because average ps3 owner has 8.5 games while 360 owners have 8.9 games. SO, using blu ray player as an excuse for its sales and saying ps3 owners do not play games is compeletely laughable.sethman410
Damage controle is their specialty; On a side-by-side comparison, 360 loses 1/10 when it comes to functionality... What's even more interesting is that, even when the crapbox has no games coming out, they still try and blindly defend it... ...and I consider "Gears of Bore 3" a well deserved bonus in the otherwise "F' YOU" segment of the obviouse weakening life cycle for 360...
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[QUOTE="RecklessTortuga"][QUOTE="daledoback"]

People forget about the format war. When Warner Bros announced Blu-ray exclusive that SKY ROCKETED PS3s soley for Blu-ray. Look at the numbers from that time period. Look at all the movie forums such as AVS, HighDefForums, etc. Hell, that's when I bought one. And when I did buy it I bought 8 Blu-ray movies and not one game for it. Any cow telling you otherwise is in complete denial or just wasnt around/paying attention during the format war.

daledoback

Why should it matter what people bought their PS3 for...? Do you honestly not think it was in Sony's original interest to promote blue/ray through PS3? Of course, a lot of people probably bought a PS3 because of blue/ray because, it was a bargin; Not to mention you were also getting a gaming console on top of that purchase; I mean, if you only bought a PS3 for blue/ray, why wouldn't you just had gone out and purchased a regular blue/ray player for the same price??? So for anyone to say, they didn't purchase a PS3 because of those two factors is completely in denial...!!! It's a stupid way of thinking in general; That would be like me saying, I only bought a Xbox 360 for the DVD functionality...

First, its BLU-RAY not blue/ray. Second, and by the way your post is completley proving my point, the PS3 was the most powerful,most cost effective (future proof) Blu-ray player on the market at the time, fact. Sure, in 2011 it's not like that anymore.

Still in denial? Explain the attach rates, ESPECIALLY during this time period (2007 - 2008). People were just buying PS3s and not playing them...hmmm...wondering what they were doing with them? Do your homework before you come at me kid.

First of all, I don't care if I spell it (BLUERAY), (Blue/Ray), (Blue-Ray), or (BR), what difference does it make??? Splitting-hairs doesn't win you an argument with me, brah! Second, I'm gonna "come at you" because your views are opinion based; Just because you spent $600 on a gaming console just for it's drive doesn't mean everyone else did; I'm just sayin, not everyone was that stupid...! I'm just saying, it was a bargin because, anyone who was smart about purchasing something, knew they were "hitting two birds with one stone". Regardless of your views on Sony, PS3, or "Blue-ray", it doesn't change the fact that you basically wasted money on a gaming console for it's internal peripheral... Do you honestly think, it makes a difference to me, Sony, PS3 fanboys, why you purchased a PS3??? Fact of the matter is, Sony has your money; They could careless what you do with it after that! ...so, yea, I'm coming at you!!!
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#5 RecklessTortuga
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="russiaAK47"]

hmm, only 3 million ahead with a year head start and millions of people re-buying consoles cause their old ones broke? i think sony won

daledoback

So no one ever bought a PS3 just for the Blu-Ray and no PS3 ever break? If there is so few unique 360 owners then who are buying all the games considering the 360 has a higher attach rate and sold more software? The Wii can be a success starting a year later but excuses are needed for the playstation brand that was the clear leader two gens in a row?

People forget about the format war. When Warner Bros announced Blu-ray exclusive that SKY ROCKETED PS3s soley for Blu-ray. Look at the numbers from that time period. Look at all the movie forums such as AVS, HighDefForums, etc. Hell, that's when I bought one. And when I did buy it I bought 8 Blu-ray movies and not one game for it. Any cow telling you otherwise is in complete denial or just wasnt around/paying attention during the format war.

Why should it matter what people bought their PS3 for...? Do you honestly not think it was in Sony's original interest to promote blue/ray through PS3? Of course, a lot of people probably bought a PS3 because of blue/ray because, it was a bargin; Not to mention you were also getting a gaming console on top of that purchase; I mean, if you only bought a PS3 for blue/ray, why wouldn't you just had gone out and purchased a regular blue/ray player for the same price??? So for anyone to say, they didn't purchase a PS3 because of those two factors is completely in denial...!!! It's a stupid way of thinking in general; That would be like me saying, I only bought a Xbox 360 for the DVD functionality...
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The topic title sounds slightly ridiculous, but what I mean is, like The Legend of Zelda has become Nintendo's flagship franchise, and has become their long running fantasy series that is easily identifiable because of its unmistakeable story, characters, game world, and charm, will Sony and Microsoft ever have a similar franchise of their own?

I remember IGN's review for the original Fable on the Xbox said that if Microsoft handled it right, Fable could become their Zelda, but Microsoft kind of botched that series up. As far as I know, Sony has nothing like Zelda.

In fact, te closest series to Zelda that I know of is Elder Scrolls.

So my question is, can Sony and Microsoft ever have their own Zelda like series?

crippled_ram
First of all, I think Sony has done an excellent job of bringing us a "variety" of (original) exclusives this gen as well as the last; Honestly, why should it be in Sony's philosophy to go the Nintendo route and keep rehashing the same game, over, and over, and over, and over again? Seriously, how many different times can you re-tell the same plot over again??? ...and this is not a direct bash against Zelda but, more towards it's creators... I mean, it's always the same plot; "Go and save the land of Hyrule from the evil Ganondorf, using the little triple, triangle, thingy!!! "
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-26-global-ps3-sales-still-behind-xbox-360

"A record 14.3 million PS3s were sold during those 12 months, taking the global PS3 tally to 50 million.

But Microsoft's worldwide Xbox 360 total is higher, standing at 53.6 million (as of January 2011)."

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I think what people really need to take into consideration is that, PS3 came a long why to catch up to Xbox 360; So I think it's pretty damn impressive on Sony's part... Plus, people should also take into consideration that, Microsoft completely abandoned and robbed the original Xbox of a year or two, just to get that head start. Also, let's not forget about the people who had to re-purchase another 360, do to RROD before the extended warranty was issued... So the real question there is, how many of those yearly quarter numbers are truly legit???
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#8 RecklessTortuga
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[QUOTE="RecklessTortuga"][QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Now you're just asserting things with no basis. I could do it too, I would say that this developer is not merely the only one affected by the outage, but rather the one being hit the hardest. Therefore he is speaking out for everyone else. I legitimately think my assertion is more likely.

PSdual_wielder

"Basis"??? What "basis"??? There is no basis needed for what I've been trying say about this guy; This guy is trying to base his games' lack of interest on Sony giving away two totally different games for free... He's insecure!!!

If his games is suffering a lack of interest they wouldn't be offered up for free by sony now would they?

Yeah, I think you've lost yourself on that one... His game is not being given away for free...
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[QUOTE="RecklessTortuga"]You guys talk as if this guy's game isn't going to get any advertisment in the sort; Just like any new release of any game on psn, it'll receive equal treatment and if gamers are interrested, they'll buy it... heretrix

You have absolutely no idea if that's true or not. Also, the way the PSN store is setup, even on the best of days it's not all that great at promoting games.

So, now you're saying, it won't receive any advertisment?? I'm not understanding your logic because, you're trying to make everything a one-sided street for what you and this guy are trying to speculate; It's all just speculation on your behalf anyway... The guy's game will receive advertisement in the sort, whether it be big or small; And I believe that PSN advertisment boxes and links have been very up-front and thoro about new releases and the most popular downloaded games... And have both PSN and XBL...
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[QUOTE="RecklessTortuga"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

what does this have to do with anything i posted? this has nothing to do with PC, it has to do with PSN. it's not a free flash game, it's a lot more than that. lol you still didn't even bother answering my previous question, what makes you think they're not concerned with making a good game? you seem pretty sure about that, so much so that you would be happy if they went bankrupt.

my petty comment stands.

PSdual_wielder

What he was trying to get at was, there are plenty free games to be downloaded and played for free on PC; if this guy's game doesn't sell the way he expects it to, is he gonna blame it on that as well... It doesn't matter what platform is giving away the free games, he has no legitimate reason to blame any other source for his game being over looked and not selling; I mean, the guy acts as if he's the only indi developer in the world, who was effected by PSN outing; All those other indi developers games were effected by the psn outing as well, not just his; This guy obviously feels that, crying like a little school girl about his own insecurities of his game being able to generate sales, is the more formidable route. I mean, complaining about psn being down and not being able to sell your game is one thing, but blaming the lack of sales on another company giving away two (totally) different games is childish whining...

Now you're just asserting things with no basis. I could do it too, I would say that this developer is not merely the only one affected by the outage, but rather the one being hit the hardest. Therefore he is speaking out for everyone else. I legitimately think my assertion is more likely.

"Basis"??? What "basis"??? There is no basis needed for what I've been trying say about this guy; This guy is trying to base his games' lack of interest on Sony giving away two totally different games for free... He's insecure!!!