[QUOTE="Revan_911"]

Except they do the "It's like farting on a slug" thing multiple times. If they did it once i would think they left something for the sequel. Multiple times it's just bad writing. And just what in the hell happened in the end? When Sarren died, the reaper's shield failed. WHY would that happen? Is this omnipotent being really that stupid? The entire citadel was falling apart, a rock could have fallen on Sarren.

SaudiFury

maybe... just maybe... The Shield on the reaper failed because it had a combined armada of Human/Asari/Salarian/Turian fleets (the remnants) concentrating on it. even Vigil on Ilos said, that one Reaper alone could not beat the fleets.

With Saren dying and then the Reaper failing, it was meant to show the good guys winning, not that the two had a sort of symbiotic relationship that if either of the two were harmed the other one was as well.

Saren being resurrected was to show the strength that the Reapers possessed, after it had placed in it's implants into Saren. Also before you blast me on it, Saren - though he was the villain - was trying to 'save the galaxy' from what he saw as the inevitable.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="Revan_911"] Just watch this gameplay video and listen to the dialogue. It's the most dumb thing I've seen and i have seen Space Mutiny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IymgIxeRskw

Also life would not be so intellegent if the reapers didn't leave this tecnology around. And i just remember another thing. They say that this cycle repeated itself for at least 100 times or something, but only now the reapers need to find "The conduit" to enter the citadel.How did they enter the previous 99 times?

SaudiFury

They explain it in the game.

I keep getting the sense that he wasn't following the story closely. or he didn't go as indepth with it.

SPOILERS!!!

The reason the Reaper needed to find the conduit was so that Saren could access the Citadel tower and activate the relay for the other Reapers to rush in. the Citadel is essentially a giant trap. If you dug into the information that Vigil (on Ilos) he said that the few remaining Protheans that lasted the onslaught of the Reapers, made a smaller relay (however it was a one-way stop), and altered the signal on the Keepers.

How the Reapers came in is pretty simple.

After cleaning the galaxy, they leave one of their own behind. The vanguard occasionally from time to time awakes from it's hibernation to see what the situation is. When the time is right, the vanguard sends a signal to the Keepers on the Citadel to open the relay for the Reapers. However due to the alterations made by the last Protheans the signal did not come through. this forced the vanguard to find 'allies', a Spectre found it (Saren). and the Geth worshipped the Reaper like a god.

Saren is the villain, but it turns out that the ship is a Reaper and is the main villain. Saren came off as a villain, but he thought (after he learned about the cycle) he could save organic life.

When the Reapers does the whole "you cannot possibly understand". I never got the feeling of the writers deciding they didn't know the answer. If you were even listening to the Reapers tone and what it was saying. It has nothing but absolute distaste for Organic life. It wasn't gonna tell you it's motives like a bad comic-book villain. If the cycle has been going unbroken time and time again, and Reapers utterly destroy every civilization, then it feels no threat or reason to explain itself.

"Your a Reaper!"

"Reaper... the name the Protheans gave to their own destruction".

it doesn't even have it's own name.

As far as its motives, we don't know yet. Even then the destruction of the galaxy is reason enough to stop the thing.

Also if you were listening to the Vanguard, the REASON they left the relays intact, and some remaining technology, was so it controlled the route of how a civilization would develop, making it easier to predict how to take down the organics when the Reapers came in. Also when the Citadel was activated, the Reapers were able to shut down the other relays, utterly cutting each system off from one another (in other words organic life was S.O.L. ).

End of Spoiler

If you don't like that it is 'save the universe', you don't like the dialog of the characters, and you don't like the idea of spectres.

then you picked up the wrong game.

Also the idea of the story not being interesting, because what it turns into when you boil it down. then i plead you find a new hobby.

Mario = Save Mushroom Kingdom

Zelda = Save **** Kingdom

Halo = Save Humanity/Destroy Halos that can destroy a ton of life

Dragon Age = Save World from Darkspawn

Mass Effect = Save Galaxy from Reapers

Gears of War = Save Planet Sera from Locust

Resistance = Save Earth

What's the explanation then...?

[QUOTE="Revan_911"]

Well i tried when i first made the post, didn't work so well but i will try to elaborate.

1. Spectres don't belong in that universe. That's like if the US had its own SS. It seems like bioware was looking for the best way to rip off "Jedi"

2. Dissapointing Villain. Saren looks cool and has that sinister voice, but in the end he fails as a villain. The time when he goes all roid rage and starts bashing tables and stuff was one of the more stupid things i have seen. Also the fact that he was being mind controlled makes him utterly pointless.

3 . Bioware syndrome "THE FATE OF THE UNIVERSEEEE" Every bioware game has this plot, but i find it hard to beilive that the fate of the universe is in the hands of some bald guy with a gun. It might have worked in some other games, but not here.

4.Aliens who talk like HK-47(?) and also the Racni, when the racni queen possesses a dead asari and the asari goes twiching his eye and stuff saying something like " humans do not sing like us"(?)

5. The reapers and the "ENDLESS CYCLEEEEE"! They say that they return every 50 000 years to end all life in the galaxy (WHY?), but there was life on earth that long ago. They leave out all this tecnology laying around and then they and they say that organic life has advanced enough and it's time to end it. Well there woudn't be any advances if they didn't leave nothing arround in the first place.

6. When the game reaches something that it can't explain like the motivation of the reapers they go" YOUR PUNNY MIND CANNOT POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND! IT WOULD BE LIKE TEACHING POLKA TO A GRIZZLY BEAR". That happens three times. They can't explain their tangled plot so they say you can't understand it.

There is a lot of other stuff too like the Genophage. Humanity is trying so hard to become part of this group that commits massive genocide with biolocigal warfare that kills fetuses while inside the womb.

I am not skilled enough in english to explain just how stupid it is, that's why i didn't post this in the first place.

topgunmv

I agree with #6. To address #5, they only go around and kill all the "intelligent" life. The rest of it is really opinion, if you didn't like those aspects of it, then that's fine, different strokes for different folks.

Also life would not be so intellegent if the reapers didn't leave this tecnology around. And i just remember another thing. They say that this cycle repeated itself for at least 100 times or something, but only now the reapers need to find "The conduit" to enter the citadel.How did they enter the previous 99 times?

Well i tried when i first made the post, didn't work so well but i will try to elaborate.

1. Spectres don't belong in that universe. That's like if the US had its own SS. It seems like bioware was looking for the best way to rip off "Jedi"

2. Dissapointing Villain. Saren looks cool and has that sinister voice, but in the end he fails as a villain. The time when he goes all roid rage and starts bashing tables and stuff was one of the more stupid things i have seen. Also the fact that he was being mind controlled makes him utterly pointless.

3 . Bioware syndrome "THE FATE OF THE UNIVERSEEEE" Every bioware game has this plot, but i find it hard to beilive that the fate of the universe is in the hands of some bald guy with a gun. It might have worked in some other games, but not here.

4.Aliens who talk like HK-47(?) and also the Racni, when the racni queen possesses a dead asari and the asari goes twiching his eye and stuff saying something like " humans do not sing like us"(?)

5. The reapers and the "ENDLESS CYCLEEEEE"! They say that they return every 50 000 years to end all life in the galaxy (WHY?), but there was life on earth that long ago. They leave out all this tecnology laying around and then they and they say that organic life has advanced enough and it's time to end it. Well there woudn't be any advances if they didn't leave nothing arround in the first place.

6. When the game reaches something that it can't explain like the motivation of the reapers they go" YOUR PUNNY MIND CANNOT POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND! IT WOULD BE LIKE TEACHING POLKA TO A GRIZZLY BEAR". That happens three times. They can't explain their tangled plot so they say you can't understand it.

There is a lot of other stuff too like the Genophage. Humanity is trying so hard to become part of this group that commits massive genocide with biolocigal warfare that kills fetuses while inside the womb.

I am not skilled enough in english to explain just how stupid it is, that's why i didn't post this in the first place.

Yeah...

I always wanted to play Mass Effect and i never got arround to it. Everyone on the forums, not to mention all the reviewers kept saying " The story is awesome" so i was super hyped when i got it off steam only recently. I have a lot of sci-fi books, movies, video-games and i can say that i have seen enough to judge between good and bad writting and Mass Effect = bad writting. I do not mind bad story in video games, this is not Hollywood and normally i do not overanalyze VG plots, but the fact that everyone kept telling me that it's the next Star Wars, and it's spawning a movie (not confirmed though) so i just have to say this, the story in Mass Effect makes no sense, and it's devoid of all logic.

Don't forget that in order to buy all the buy-worthy PS3 exclusives you need at least another 200$. While you have steam here that sells new"ish" games for 5$.

You need a spell check.