Ehmm...A lot and a lot. No wonder it ran like crap. I used to do it like every time i install something but it didn't help at all i still got Stuttering in Stalker and Oblivion so i stopped doing it. Guess i only have myself to blame.

Should i turn it off restart and try again? And it annoys me because on Vista you can't see the progress it just says this will take several mins/hours...HA. If i restart it will it take ten hours or more again?

Kil'Jaiden would stomp him :)

Wow man just wow! I can only mastrubate to this stuff.

I am sorry if they are old, but i just wanted to turn your attention. This game will be the most epic of fail!! Rockstar is acting like it is Fox.

I am a strict PC gamer but if project Natal works as advertised i would probably get one. What is don't understand is how gaming on that thing would work. Let's say you play FPS on it...how do you move the character, do you walk arround? How do you shoot, do you pretend to hold an imaginary gun? The only thing that seems playable are driving games, but i can always get a cheap wheel and be done with it. I tried to find some videos of it, and the games Microsoft is working on seems almost "Wii" childish like painting game, or hiting a virtual ball or something.

So what do you think. Ive heard people say it will make other consoles obselete, but i don't see that happening. I think that it will be fun for casual people it won't work for hardcore gamers.

Can't say about the sequels but definitely Assassins Creed.

In Mass effect the combat was sloppy, the Role Playing wasn't very good it felt like there is no weight to your leveling. And everyone keeps saying like the story is the next Star Wars or something but it's not...Most of the backround behind the world was pure **** i mean i laughed at how bad it was. And almost none of the sidequests was original, they were borrowed from Kotor or even Newerwinter Nights. I could go on but whatever.

I am talking about an average game here, not MGS. If Activision treatens to drop making games for the PS3, does that mean that the PC is outselling it? Or is it just easier to make a crappy PC port, rather than spend time and resources developing it on the PS3? This is really bothering me, if someone has an oppinion pls say.

Thanks for all the responses.

I turned it off, i got 30 fps which is pretty slow, to 60-80 without Vsync.