I love moral decisions in games when it matters what you do like in Fallout 3, Mass effect 1-2, and soon to be in Heavy Rain. But its kinda lame when 'moral decisions' are being tacked onto every game now like army of two for example. Do you think this feauture should be in all story-drivben games? Like would you want to see a game like zelda with moral decisions to make?

Boogie_J

[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]First off all classes are not played the same. Sentinal and soldier for example are played different.

Also what do you consider a rpg then? I feel ME2 has all the RPG elements so if you do not then what is it lacking? What elements are missing? I am not just asking for the response it is dumbed down though but how is this less of a rpg then most rpgs?

88mphSlayer

dude that's kind of a dumb thing to say, KOTOR is the exact example of a game you're being critical of, it has ranged and melee but ranged in that game sucks even at the beginning, and when you get lightsabers it's all over for the ranged class, in essence KOTOR is a "dumbed down rpg", did that make it not an rpg? nope

[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]You create a character... that doesn't make it a RPG. Classes don't play any different, they just give you different powers. That's no different than a beat em up where one person is weak but fast, the other is strong but slow, etc Choices... to me this is just playing to the advantages that the video game medium has over others when telling stories. Weapon choices... every shooter and action game ever made has multiple weapons. Upgrades... RE5 lets you upgrade your guns and so do most game nowadays. The "rpg elements" of ME2 are insanely boiled down to their most barebones components. There are games that don't label themselves RPGs at all that go more in depth with these elements than ME2. Maybe it is a RPG, but it one of the most dumbed down and simplified ones out there in terms of delivering RPG mechanics and the few mechanics it does offer are less than a lot of games that don't consider themselves to be one at all.SilentlyMad

Also what do you consider a rpg then? I feel ME2 has all the RPG elements so if you do not then what is it lacking? What elements are missing? I am not just asking for the response it is dumbed down though but how is this less of a rpg then most rpgs?

I thought it was closer to crackwon than me1. In crackdown you can decide what character you want, you can upgrade powers, get new weapons and have an open world, but its not an rpg. Sure me2 is a good game, but its an action adventure/tps rather than rpg.

JONO51

If you want to at least pretend that you're not just trying to bash 360 games, you should space out threads doing so by more than an hour or two.

topgunmv

On PC it's one of the best looking games available, it has very good human AI, it's not just loosely inspired by a book but it's entirely based on it, it's a linear shooter and has many original gameplay mechanics - from the gas mask filters and timers to ammo being currency. Your reasons for calling it a rip-off are so shallow and dumb that this topic, unlike your ME topics, isn't even funny.

Baranga

It's being developed by former GSC employes and those buggers coudn't wait to rip off Stalker.There's allready suspicion that 4a games stole the X-ray engine or at least some parts of it.

Both Stalker and Metro 2033 are based on Russian literature. They both have this post apocaliptyc setting. They even both look the same. Of course Metro is coming to the 360 so it will have dumbed down graphics and A.I. But then again it might turn out like Risen or Divinity II where the PC version was great and the 360 version sucked. Will see..

it is fps with rpg elements, but since this game is good i do not care is it rpg or not NLahren

Just got play something with traditional RPG rules and shut the hell up about ME2.

I might also point you in the direction of the RPG Codex, I think you'd fit right in. However, you need to learn how to complain and be funny before you can truely fit in there. Currently you're only succeeding at one of them.blaaah

Mods don't allow me to be funny. Last time i tried to be funny i got banned for a day, funny man.

It's pretty apparent different people have different views on what a RPG is. Personally, I think allot of games out there consider themselves RPGs when theyreally are action games.

In the case ofMass Effect(haven't gotten around to playing the second). I consider ita shooter and/or conversation game more then a RPG as I define it.

FragTycoon