The problem is that people seem to go out of their way to look for things to be offended by.Trickshot771

Out of their way? Yeah.. it took a LOT of digging to find his church of over 20 years...

[QUOTE="delol"] You are easily depressed This is one of the most dynamic election ever in the US , especially after the 2000 one and Carl RoweLJS9502_basic

Two choices.....I'm not Republican and I don't believe in many of their ideals. And I don't like Obama AT ALL.

He's not easily depressed, he obviously just doesn't unconditionally and blindly follow every potential leader in his chosen political side. It means he's intelligent, I suggest you look further into candidates than following them no matter what.

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[QUOTE="bman784"]This argument makes about 20 too many assumptions to be valid. Obama hasn't said anything explicitly racist, and has promoted racial unity. That in an of itself makes the racism argument void. Attending an institution does not mean that you are required to dogmatically accept everything that is said by that institution. Obama has stated that he agrees with Wright on spiritual issues, but not on political issues. There are a plethora of explanations for why he stayed at this church that make more sense than "because he's a closet racist".bman784

I'll use my example again. If Mccain was a member of the KKK for 20 years, then all of a sudden (before his campaign) renounced it, by YOUR logic it wouldn't be a problem. Only if he said "I agreed with them on financial ideals but nothing race-related" it would by a-okay. Find me a churchgoer that attends a faith for 20 years and doesn't buy into everything they say?

So a pastor that does nothing but spew hatred against whites and America was allowed by Obama to perform his marriage ceremony... sure, it doesn't mean anything. Again, the excuses are hilarious. Please keep them coming.

Did you even watch that video? Did you read anything that his pastor preached? For 20 years?! Even in the UNLIKELY event that Obama didn't agree with those views, he still not only tolerated them but supported them by staying with that pastor.

I [QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]This argument makes about 20 too many assumptions to be valid. Obama hasn't said anything explicitly racist, and has promoted racial unity. That in an of itself makes the racism argument void. Attending an institution does not mean that you are required to dogmatically accept everything that is said by that institution. Obama has stated that he agrees with Wright on spiritual issues, but not on political issues. There are a plethora of explanations for why he stayed at this church that make more sense than "because he's a closet racist".smarb001

I'll use my example again. If Mccain was a member of the KKK for 20 years, then all of a sudden (before his campaign) renounced it, by YOUR logic it wouldn't be a problem. Only if he said "I agreed with them on financial ideals but nothing race-related" it would by a-okay. Find me a churchgoer that attends a faith for 20 years and doesn't buy into everything they say?

except that KKK =/= church, and the KKK doesnt exactly specialise in economics...

Used that as an example, whites don't have a church that spews hatred against blacks.

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[QUOTE="bman784"]This argument makes about 20 too many assumptions to be valid. Obama hasn't said anything explicitly racist, and has promoted racial unity. That in an of itself makes the racism argument void. Attending an institution does not mean that you are required to dogmatically accept everything that is said by that institution. Obama has stated that he agrees with Wright on spiritual issues, but not on political issues. There are a plethora of explanations for why he stayed at this church that make more sense than "because he's a closet racist".bman784

I'll use my example again. If Mccain was a member of the KKK for 20 years, then all of a sudden (before his campaign) renounced it, by YOUR logic it wouldn't be a problem. Only if he said "I agreed with them on financial ideals but nothing race-related" it would by a-okay. Find me a churchgoer that attends a faith for 20 years and doesn't buy into everything they say?

So a pastor that does nothing but spew hatred against whites and America was allowed by Obama to perform his marriage ceremony... sure, it doesn't mean anything. Again, the excuses are hilarious. Please keep them coming.

This argument makes about 20 too many assumptions to be valid. Obama hasn't said anything explicitly racist, and has promoted racial unity. That in an of itself makes the racism argument void. Attending an institution does not mean that you are required to dogmatically accept everything that is said by that institution. Obama has stated that he agrees with Wright on spiritual issues, but not on political issues. There are a plethora of explanations for why he stayed at this church that make more sense than "because he's a closet racist".bman784

I'll use my example again. If Mccain was a member of the KKK for 20 years, then all of a sudden (before his campaign) renounced it, by YOUR logic it wouldn't be a problem. Only if he said "I agreed with them on financial ideals but nothing race-related" it would by a-okay. Find me a churchgoer that attends a faith for 20 years and doesn't buy into everything they say?

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[QUOTE="MattUD1"]

Perhaps I should have rephrased that...

Since when did Rev. Wright's views represent Barack Obama's views?

MattUD1

He wouldn't have attended the church for 20 years if he didn't agree. I stopped going to Catholic church years ago, people don't support a religion unless they believe what's being preached.

Like I said in the original post, I didn't expect to change views. It's these hilarious excuses people come up with that make me laugh. Thanks for that.

Well first of all Obama has distanced himself from the pastor and that pastor is simply saying what just about every other country thinks of america at the moment

braindead_hero

That was a smart political move, he would never win if he was still attending that church. I think it's interesting that ALL OF A SUDDEN, after 20 YEARS, he suddenly doesn't agree with that church.

Perhaps I should have rephrased that...

Since when did Rev. Wright's views represent Barack Obama's views?

MattUD1

He wouldn't have attended the church for 20 years if he didn't agree. I stopped going to Catholic church years ago, people don't support a religion unless they believe what's being preached.