I seriously need to finish this game. It's so good. The 5 hours I played so far at least. Since upgrading my gaming rig to a 2080 with a 1440p 144 Hz gsync monitor and getting used to it, console games that run at 30 FPS have started to give me headaches.
@Tiwill44: Games being $60 was a standard set around 2005. A standard set so everyone gets a piece of the pie whether your game was sold on Steam or Gamestop. Which is why i agree with you when you say it's not our problem. But I can't sit here and say that it's okay. Prices are going up on stuff every day. At which point will that $60 hit it's breaking point? The point where the entire industry says "Alright guys, this shit is getting expensive and $60 ain't cutting it." What are they gonna come up with next after loot boxes and microtransactions don't work as well as they hope?
My fear is that games are literally gonna start getting chopped up and sold to us in pieces. I'd much rather them just communicate with us gamers clearly and tell us what needs to be done with factual evidence to back it. I'd rather pay more money if it means my game will work properly, not be copped up into pieces and not overloaded with LDC and microtransactions. Just my take though.
Getting back to Epic? We won't agree. Not because our points are invalid because I agree with a lot of what you said but on my end the cons don't make or break my buying decision. My game buying is pretty simple. I see great game. I want great game, I buy it. If the platform presents some sort of roadblock preventing me from enjoying that content, then I have a problem. So far, Epic hasn't done that. Just my take on it.
@Tiwill44: I agree It's not our problem. It shouldn't be at least but this is life and inflation is a very real thing. Sooner or later it's going to hit the industry like a ton of bricks. Especially since tactics like DLC and loot boxes put in place to make up for that aren't really working well. The mere mention of those words sends gamers flying into a rage.
A better cut for developers and publishers DOES do something for you. It means maybe the DLC and microtransactions won't be as aggressive. Or it could mean more post game content. Or it could mean the game will ship with less bugs. It definitely helps you in the end one way or another.
As far as PC sales, you provided MHW as an example. That's a bad example. Monster Hunter is huge. It's global popularity is ginormous. That series will never have a problem selling. Let's talk about great games that didn't sell well. How about Kingdoms of Amalur? Awesome game that needed serious help monetarily because it flew under everyone's radar. The studio was even closed down.. plenty of examples out there. Not every game sells boatloads like Monster Hunter and GTA and those are the games that benefit from that 30% cut being lowered.
I remember paying $70 for Super Mario 64 in '96. Might not seem like much but today that $70 with inflation factored in is about $110. If we were paying $110 a game today do you really think the state in which games are released would be as it is now?
You're right, It's not our problem but it's going to be. We are the lifeline of the industry. The money ultimately comes from our pockets. I just hope there's someone out there smart enough to steer the industry in the right direction instead of sending it into an upheaval.
@Royas: While I agree with you, not having these features yet is certainly not a deal breaker for me and definitely not what everyone is waving their pitchforks at. Do they need to be added? Sure. Absolutely. Are they necessary to validate your purchase? Absolutely not. I've never looked to Steam user reviews to validate a purchase. There are way more credible sources out there when it comes to game reviews and they don't even include sites like this but I digress. The ONLY Steam feature that I've ever used, and the most important one IMO that should be added are forums for game titles so people can help each other out when they have issues.
I'm willing to give Epic a chance. Steam has stagnated. The store has been a cluttered mess for years. So far I've only purchased one game off EGS and I was a very happy camper. Yes features are missing that need to be added but as far as my experience went, what more needs to be said? Looking forward to Borderlands 3.
@Tiwill44: They don't need us. Us PC gamers are outnumbered by console gamers to the point where every publisher/developer could exit the PC market and the game industry wouldn't backfire monetarily.
Also, $60 can be profitable.. if sold in bulk. Like anything out there. Again, refer to Rockstar and the gillions of copies they sell. But then take a look at those awesome games out there that don't sell well. Niche games. Those smaller publishers/developers that DO have PC versions of their games, a better cut would benefit them. Would you not agree?
No need to reach. I've made my points and they're valid. If you feel like picking them apart looking for a fault, then I've done my part. I gotten you to think outside your box and maybe realize some things you haven't realized before.
Seriously, look into how $60 ain't enough anymore in the game industry. It's a good read and a good indicator of where the industry is heading. For better or for worse.
@Tiwill44: Whatever these features are, I didn't miss them one bit. Buying a game through EGS store was painless and easy just like it is on Steam. I bought Exodus, beat it, uninstalled it. That was it. Same experience I have through Steam.
@Tiwill44: Dude your comment seriously shows how out of touch with the industry you are. Make games cheaper? Publishers are siding with Epic because it's allowing them to keep more money in their pockets. Did you know that games are already too cheap? That they're half as profitable and more expensive to make as they were twenty years ago? Do you know why DLC, loot boxes and microtransactions exist? Because inflation never applied to the video game industry like it did to everything else. $60 for a game doesn't cut it. They should be nearly twice the price they are now.
Look into it and educate yourself. This issue has been boiling over for quite some time now and it's only going get worse until the entire industry hits a brick wall.
@jyml8582: Did you forget consoles exist and massively outnumber PC gamers? If BL3 sold just one copy on PC it wouldn't hurt their overall margin. People have been clamoring for this game for years console sales will be through the roof.
You should be afraid to ever see another Borderlands title on PC. If the game doesn't do well on PC, 2k will just release future games on consoles and give PC gamers the finger. They don't need us. No publisher/developer does. There are over 80 million PS4s out there. Just look at Rockstar. Why do you think they take their damn time bringing their games to us? Because they don't need us and we're just an after thought.
@Jinzo_111887: Steam already has a monopoly. A monopoly that was created by users themselves. Just look at your comment. Willing to bet that even if Epic didn't pull any exclusive deals on the games you want, you wouldn't buy a damn game off their store if it was available on Steam as well.
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