It has nothing to do with an enemy/friend situation. You're making this an issue by trying to get in an argument with me over how I reason spending my own money so you should kindly stop trying to act like I'm the unreasonable one here. I have talked to enough people and played enough PC games to know what I want out of a PC and 600 bucks is not going to cut it (and it costs more than 600 bucks on top of that but anyway). Anyway, this discussion is over now so you can continue arguing but I'm not replying.

ActicEdge

Because I know you'll read this post:

Buyer's remorse is in your future

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Cause I'm the type of person who likes to do something right or not do it at all. I'm not going to spend 600 bucks on a mediocore PC, its either balls to the wall awesome or its not getting done. That's all there is too it.

ActicEdge

So you would spend an extra $1000 to play five games better?

And a $600 pc is mediocre? How would you even know?

Nope, spend the extra money to max everything on the market at extremely high resolutions and never have to tinker with settings to find the perfect blend of performance to graphics. Also please, a $600 is not going to give you the visuals and performance that make Pc gaming such a superior option to consoles. I don't want to just beat consoles when I make a PC, I want to blow them away. No PC enthusiat here is going to try and tell me I can get a PC from scratch with everything including monitor, keyboard, mouse and copy of windows for $600. Get out of here with that shiit.

Again, how would you even know? Have you ever tried to build your own PC?

But you're right. You would need to add a $100-$150 monitor to that price.

A $600 pc isn't going to just beat consoles. "Just beating" consoles wouldn't mean playing 95% of games at 1080p+ resolutions with 60+ fps. There are diminishing returns as you keep increasing your hardware power especially with the games out today. You're basically stating you need to spend an extra $500-$1000 more to get 0 added benefit on 95% of games, but to max out games like Crysis, in order to blow consoles away.

Take me as a friend, or an enemy. I don't really care, but I warn you to NOT GO INTO PC GAMING WITH THAT MINDSET. You are going to set yourself up for the most extreme amount of buyer's remorse fathomable.

You don't even know what you'd truly like out of PC gaming it seems. It's a much better idea to work from the ground up than the top down. You know what I mean?

If you don't care much about Crysis then why would you want to max Crysis? If you don't care much about flight simulators, or racing simulators then why would you want a triple monitor setup? If you don't even use a keyboard/mouse to play games as it is then do you really think it'd be a wise choice to buy some $100 accessories that you don't even know the benefits of (assuming there actually are any)?

Why not ask your friends about it? I see you in the lounge every day, and I guarantee you every PC gamer in that lounge is not rocking a $1500 rig, and yet they absolutely love gaming on their PC.

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Its not really expensive in this day and age at all. I'm just one of those people who figures if I'm gonna do it, I'm going all out and that isn't in the price range right now.

ActicEdge

Why would you need to go all out? There's just no reason for it if you haven't got a purpose for the hardware.

You could literally play every game with a $600 computer. It might not be max settings, but you could play them all very nicely. In comparison the consoles tend to not play many games at all above 30fps, or 720p resolutions, and they are very blurry looking at times (unless it's the Wii of course).

If that is acceptable it seems odd a $600 computer wouldn't be acceptable for gaming.

I mean where would the extra money go after that point? A triple monitor setup? Maxing out two or three games that actually need the hardware? Super expensive gaming keyboards, mice, headsets?

Seems a little overkill to me. Unless you're a simulation fanatic then triple monitor seems to be overkill, and unless you want to play Crysis all day long at max then a $300-$500 video card seems overkill.

Cause I'm the type of person who likes to do something right or not do it at all. I'm not going to spend 600 bucks on a mediocore PC, its either balls to the wall awesome or its not getting done. That's all there is too it.

So you would spend an extra $1000 to play five games better?

And a $600 pc is mediocre? How would you even know?

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]Most people agree you need a PC anyways, so why not build one that plays games for the same price you'd pay for a crappy one at a store?? There's a ton of money that can be saved in doing so Shielder7

A good gaming PC will run around the price of $600 + about $100-$150 for a monitor.

This PC will be of similar performance to laptops of upwards of $2000 if you purchase one at a store.

In the desktop market you'd have to spend roughly $1100 to get anything comparable at a store.

And what software that comes with them? Norton? That may be the worst program I've ever seen.

The only thing you really need is Windows 7, and if you want virus protection there is free software out there.

The software you get on a store-bought PC bogs down the computer. It's a very noticeable hit to performance in comparison to the performance you get with a custom-built computer without pre-loaded software on it.

Its not really expensive in this day and age at all. I'm just one of those people who figures if I'm gonna do it, I'm going all out and that isn't in the price range right now.

ActicEdge

Why would you need to go all out? There's just no reason for it if you haven't got a purpose for the hardware.

You could literally play every game with a $600 computer. It might not be max settings, but you could play them all very nicely. In comparison the consoles tend to not play many games at all above 30fps, or 720p resolutions, and they are very blurry looking at times (unless it's the Wii of course).

If that is acceptable it seems odd a $600 computer wouldn't be acceptable for gaming.

I mean where would the extra money go after that point? A triple monitor setup? Maxing out two or three games that actually need the hardware? Super expensive gaming keyboards, mice, headsets?

Seems a little overkill to me. Unless you're a simulation fanatic then triple monitor seems to be overkill, and unless you want to play Crysis all day long at max then a $300-$500 video card seems overkill.

Thought this was interesting, as you guys tend to be each others' friend.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/200210/

"Realm of the Mad God is the first ever cooperative MMO bullet hell shooter. Fight monsters in groups of up to 85 players! Dodge blasts from devious monsters while you work with friendly teammates to take down the Mad God himself."

You can play it on their website.

http://www.realmofthemadgod.com/

And it's free to play

Just a curious question.. as a few gamers tend to think that PC gaming is inexpensive.

OhSnapitz

The majority of the time I see this comment posted it has to do with the price of PC games, the amount of free-to-play games available, as well as all the free content available.

Most people agree you need a PC anyways, so why not build one that plays games for the same price you'd pay for a crappy one at a store?? There's a ton of money that can be saved in doing so.

In terms of playing games on my PS3, PSP, DS, Wii, or PC my PC has been the cheapest thing to game on every single year, relatively speaking.

rentals, paying gamefly 25 bucks a month for anything you want to play is something pc cannot really match.

i like pc better but when i can play anything i want all year long for $300 that totally trumps pc advantages to me.

Riverwolf007

Sounds expensive

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PC's have always been more underground compared to consoles. Its ben that way since i could remember. Why change now?

jun_aka_pekto

Agreed. It's been that way since like.....forever?

And it's much better this way.

I want "next gen" controllers to have six face buttons. SAGE_OF_FIRE

I would love that too......