yea.... i absolutely hated bioshock 2, in my opinion it took every single thing that made the first one great and 86'ed it.. no doubt multiplayer obviously had a hand in this, and i was soooooooo excited about this game too, preordered almost a year before its release, only to painfully watch it get the mp treatment, i was downright depressed...

ok, this part is getting very annoying, can anyone tell me how to win the melee battle against bogey? i get him down to low health then it starts some kinda fast melee scrap and it doesn't say what to rapidly press.. i've tried juggling the analog stick back an forth, ect.. any advice would help.

i have tried that but it seems to only work with my other controllers and not this 1likethebang

I don't understand the hate for multiplayer. I only ever get, as you say, whining kids and their mothers in some Call of Duty games, every other game people play properly and it's alot of fun and more challenging to play against real life human players. Multiplayer is the way to go no doubt, you should try team fortress 2 or homefront before dismissing every multiplayer game, those two have amazing multiplayer.

As for single player, you make it sound as if there's no single player games left! There's tonnes of game. And just because it HAS multiplayer, that doesn't make the single player version of it complete horse @!^#. You should really give games like Skyrim and The Witcher 2 a try. Both strictly single player games, skyrim obviously not been released yet though. Dragon Age Origins or Dragon Age 2, Fallout New Vegas, Rage, Vanquish, DEUS EX 3, Just Cause 2, GTA, Metal Gear Solid 4, Limbo, From Dust, Bastion, RDR, LA Noire, Infamous, there is a ton and your obviously just not looking hard enough. I still can't see how you have this intense grudge against multiplayer, my friend has a similar thing and quite frankly its pathetic. Then to say there aren't any single player games just makes me flip!

Defy_The_Fallen

Multiplayer is here to stay so you should stop complaining and start ignoring it if you don't like it. You need to realize that "Old School Gamers" are in the minority now and that multiplayer is actually enjoyed by a vast amount of people, which is what developers are now catering to. Personally, I love being about to go on Bad Company 2 and play a couple hours competitively with friends, or some co-op zombies on Black Ops. It's not as if developers have abandoned making good single player games though because every year we still get great stories such as Batman: AA, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, L.A. Noire and, most recently, Deus Ex: HR. Also your opinion on DLC doesn't make much sense, while talking about Vanquish you were hoping for DLC, but then later you talk of it as if it is not a good thing? Laser_Hunter

It all depends on what type of games you go for. If there's a problem, you have to give some other genres a try.

I'm a single player gamer myself and I have no problem at all. Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Metal Gear, GTA4, Just Cause 2 and so on. No problem at all.

I just avoid the simplistic FPS games:

1) Because they're boring and they get old quickly.

2) Because of the first, multiplayer is pretty much a given and forced.

I got sick of multiplayer myself because of online idiots and I'm not really up to hearing that mindless crap anymore and dealing with poorly coded games. So, I just changed my standards and never looked back.

Denji

blueboxdoctor- yea i hear ya but unfortunately like i've told so many others, the sad truth is this- as long as people continue to buy DLC *and they will* games will continue to leave out the extra goodies for extra profit..

i charge my controller by keeping it connected to my laptop untill i'm ready to use it, have you tried hooking it to a pc?

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blueboxdoctor- ok... *calming down* i apologise man, you caught me in a bad mood.. lol yea i suppose i was being a bit childish... alright- first off, when multiplayer is added to a game it takes up memory, this memory in return takes away from what is or even could be added to the sp *what i refer to as the ACTUAL game* now i know everybody hums the same tune- mp is done by a seperate design team and blah, blah, blah... but it doesn't matter cause the fact is it STILL wastes precious memory on something that isn't fun and shouldn't be in the game in the first place.. i'm gonna try and give u an example so bare with me- have u ever had french toast? u seem intelligent so i'm assuming u know the ingredients, to make french toast you take beaten eggs, add sugar and cinnamon *i apologise for my spelling* then u soak some sort of bread them make on a skittle.. anyways the point is this- french toast is good yes? add syrup even better right? well what happens to the french toast if say... u decide to leave out the sugar? less appealing right? ok then u take away the cinnamon.. now its starting to taste downright gross? now lets remove the strup as well... disgusting? multiplayer is like the corperate which sucks the life *taste* out of what could have/ would have originally been an awesome, fun, and entertaining videogame... but now... its complete poop. get it?

blueboxdoctor

Yeah, I understand your point, but it's basically just that you aren't a fan of mp. It's cool and all that you don't like it, but honestly, I'd think you'd have a bigger problem with dlc. It seems like more and more developers are giving us less of a game in order to sell the full game through dlc, and this also apples to sp only games. Though, it seems like most games I've played that have mp have a pretty solid sp that may have been drug out if they forced it to be longer. Granted, MOH is a great example of how a game should have been longer, but I just think that had more to do with the development team than anything. Other games, like KZ2 just have a horribly written story so even if there was a full focus on sp it wouldn't have made it more compelling in any way (granted, the KZ mp is rather unbalanced, and not very fun). I think the problem has more to do with developers taking less and less risks, especially since the media blew up COD as the best thing ever it makes it intimidating to make anything original. I still say there are plenty of games that may have mp, but the sp is right up there with the best.

try God of war series FixeRNK