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#1 ShenlongBo
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[QUOTE="jks22112"]I don't know about Adon. From that video it seems like he'll be pretty Gen like. Where it doesn't seem like there is initially much, but can do some killer combos if you really work with the character. Maybe a high level favorite, but I don't see him being a general player favorite. But you never know. Juri does look dangerous too. Metamania
It may look different now, but if Capcom play their cards right with Adon, then Shenlongbo may be right - Adon could very well be the next Sagat in SSFIV. Someone that's dangerous and possibly top tier.

If he's anything like A3 Adon, I don't see how I could be wrong.

The thing with this character's moves is that theyare easy to do, they're safe, and they have a good payoff. There's an instant gratification factor with Adon - very much like you see with SF4 Sagat and Ryu - so it only makes sense that people will cleave to it. Granted, I'm basing all of this on the presumption that SF4 Adon will be like old-school Adon, so if he's not, my prediction goes right out the window. That said, I'm still willing to make the call that Adon will be hugely popular in a pool of 35 characters, if only during the first couple months of Super's release, and Sagat will take dip in popularity.

His normal pokes and walking speed will determine his tier standings.

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#2 ShenlongBo
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Hey Kreaztion, good games my friend. Sim is fun to use, but I'm still pretty much harmless with him, lol. Oh well. Maybe one day I'll be able to do some damage with him.

And hey, just some friendly advice, I think you should drop the search for a main and roll with Chun. Bro you're legit with her, and your execution is always on point. Don't let that low health fool you, man, Chun is nasty, and you're the real deal with her, so run with it.

EDIT: Did you notice I was able to do the roundhouse loop with Akuma on Sagat? I mean, I only got like two or three roundhouses, but still. The power of plinking, eh?

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[QUOTE="ShenlongBo"]

[QUOTE="Kreatzion"]

Might consider using Ken with his new Ultra. I was a Ken player in 3S so the transition might not be toodifficult. I'm loving Balrog's new Ultra. It's so ghetto.

Kreatzion

You will forever be without a main in Street Fighter IV, my friend. I can see it already.

Don't worry, I'm the same way.

EDIT: Just saw Rog's new Ultra. That is pretty sweet. I wonder what it'll take to connect it, though. There's always the good old jump-in. Works well enough for Gief, and jump-ins are already a big part of Rog's wake-up game. I wonder if cr.MP has too much knockback on block to buffer in the Ultra. Might be able to get it out of a cr.jab tick or two, but man, that would take some skill.

And everyone knows Rog players aren't in it for the skill. Hahaha... jkjk.

Sorta.

Balrog's new Ultra is a 360 command grab special. So he will have tons of options on landing it. Rush Upper and TAP that are spaced accordingly will help in landing that Ultra. Plus, it'll always be full contact like Zangief's, El Fuerte's, and E. Honda's. If I decide to continue using him in SSFIV, I'd pick this Ultra over the original. Damage scaling gimps that Ultra so much. It's basically for corner set-ups.

Oooh yeah, I didn't think about Rush Upper. I tend to underestimate that one. That reminds me of all the EXFC trickery he could exploit to nail that Ultra.

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Might consider using Ken with his new Ultra. I was a Ken player in 3S so the transition might not be toodifficult. I'm loving Balrog's new Ultra. It's so ghetto.

Kreatzion

You will forever be without a main in Street Fighter IV, my friend. I can see it already.

Don't worry, I'm the same way.

EDIT: Just saw Rog's new Ultra. That is pretty sweet. I wonder what it'll take to connect it, though. There's always the good old jump-in. Works well enough for Gief, and jump-ins are already a big part of Rog's wake-up game. I wonder if cr.MP has too much knockback on block to buffer in the Ultra. Might be able to get it out of a cr.jab tick or two, but man, that would take some skill.

And everyone knows Rog players aren't in it for the skill. Hahaha... jkjk.

Sorta.

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#5 ShenlongBo
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[QUOTE="ShenlongBo"]

[QUOTE="DarkCatalyst"] I'll take it. A kick means combo options.DarkCatalyst

Its usefulness remains to be seen. Either way, did they have to go out of their way to make him kick like that? It's dumb, and it doesn't look nearly ferocious or skillful enough to be a worthy Akuma attack. That would have been appropriate (though still rather lame) as a Ken move. As an Akuma move though? Would you have even conceived of a move like that for Akuma, or even gave it the thumbs-up?

I can already tell you straight up that I can combo into it. That's all that matters. Style is irrelevant, function is everything.

If style were truly irrelevant, we'd all be playing turn-based card games with no pictures, or old-school text RPGs, or roulette, or Connect Four, not fighting games.

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[QUOTE="ShenlongBo"]

So far, the coolest new Ultra is Fei Long's (that's just too kickass), followed closely by Dan's (not kidding, that's hilarious), and then Bison's (pwnage). Ken's new one is braindead stupid, and Akuma's is just downright embarrassing. The whole world of Satsui no Hado and umpteen years of Street Fighter legacy to build on, and they give him a big, ugly, sloppy kick? Not feelin' that.

DarkCatalyst

I'll take it. A kick means combo options.

Its usefulness remains to be seen. Either way, did they have to go out of their way to make him kick like that? It's dumb, and it doesn't look nearly ferocious or skillful enough to be a worthy Akuma attack. That would have been appropriate (though still rather lame) as a Ken move. As an Akuma move though? Would you have even conceived of a move like that for Akuma, or even gave it the thumbs-up?

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So far, the coolest new Ultra is Fei Long's (that's just too kickass), followed closely by Dan's (not kidding, that's hilarious), and then Bison's (pwnage). Ken's new one is braindead stupid, and Akuma's is just downright embarrassing. The whole world of Satsui no Hado and umpteen years of Street Fighter legacy to build on, and they give him a big, ugly, sloppy kick? Not feelin' that.

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It's on Shenlong. Midnight tonight. I've got some guacamole and tortillas to serve you.

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Sounds good. Don't forget the SPAM.

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#9 ShenlongBo
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*shakes head*

Okay, I need to share a story real quick, and this is basically the only place I know of where anyone cares to hear tales of Street Fighter.

Alright, so basically, I played this guy on XBL a long time ago and beat the daylights out of him until he finally quit out of a match. My reaction was the only correct thing to do: I sent him a message telling him what a ****y he was for raging out like that.

Anyway, he gets pretty mad about the message, and subsequently challenges me to some player matches. I proceeded to beat the guts out of his Ken and Guile, but now I'm being more encouraging. For whatever reason, he took my "gg" message as a slight, and messaged the following back to me: "you're a ****, dude. Add me. You're my goal."

We played again a few months later, and he'd clearly improved, but he still didn't have the stuff to knock me out. Understand, this guy was coming from the very bottom of the bottom, though, so it wasn't exactly a surprise since I'm a fairly decent player. He took his beating, then sent me a message of defeat - something like, "you're just too good, man," or something.

Okay, so he sent me an invite tonight and we played a set to 10. I wound up winning 10-7, but holy ****. This dude has obviously spent a lot of time in the lab, and I can honestly say that this is one person who anyone here would NEVER think was a full-on scrub less than a year ago. He basically shut my Gen down entirely (even managing to beat Gen with Rog, which I basically do NOT allow), and then gave me fits with Honda for a few matches. We went back and forth up till the 7th match, but my Bison finally proved to be the solution to the Honda problem. I won. But just barely.

I'm not sharing the story to brag or something, but to just kind of reflect on just wtf SFIV has done. Love it or hate it, this game has done more than make fighting games popular again, it has made fighting gamers out of people. It's absolutely incredible, and even if I didn't have hours upon hours of good times with other players (not the least of which are DC, MM, Kreatzion, Haterade, and Martial), this night alone would have made the game worth owning.

In less surprising/spectacular news, I kicked Haterade's ass 5-3 earlier. Eh... big deal *shrug* Haha, just kiddin' bro you know it's all luh! *taps chest*

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#10 ShenlongBo
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Live Stream showing off new stuff!

EDIT: They were showing off new Ultras, but now it looks like they're playing for real and not showing off what people want to see.

King9999

Thanks for the link, man. Been watching for about a half hour or so now.

Not trying to be a raincloud again, but I just saw something bad. Guile started his new Ultra (Sonic Hurricane) on Bison at point-blank range. Bison answered by starting his new Ultra (Psycho Punisher) as a counter.

Bison went straight through Guile, leaving both characters completely undamaged, when Guile should have eaten the Ultra. We already have this problem in SFIV when Gen and Honda counter-Ultra each other at point-blank range. I want to be wrong about them replacing old problems with new ones, I really do...