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I saw an episode of Ghost Adventures not so long ago (Travel Channel) where they were using Xbox Kinect (The first one) to try to detect ghosts with and they thought they got something too. Random as that is it's the best use I've seen a Kinect sensor put to so far, lol.

Wickerman777

Kinect really is an impressive piece of technology. It's just not for gamers unless you're into singing and dancing games. And if you are, you might as well go to a f*cking karaokee bar.

Here's the ep they used it on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4TIloX68jY

Well, if they were impressed with that they'll probably love Kinect 2.

Microsoft Kinect: Proving the afterlife. Who knew? :)

eHH, 42 min? This better not be one of those shows that goes like, "OMG, the door closed behind me. It was a ghost and not the wind!!!"

I saw an episode of Ghost Adventures not so long ago (Travel Channel) where they were using Xbox Kinect (The first one) to try to detect ghosts with and they thought they got something too. Random as that is it's the best use I've seen a Kinect sensor put to so far, lol.

Wickerman777

Kinect really is an impressive piece of technology. It's just not for gamers unless you're into singing and dancing games. And if you are, you might as well go to a f*cking karaokee bar.

The whole article you linked is based off a post by Albert Penello on NeoGAF, which lead to an intense back and forth with him last night where he was caught red-handed giving incorrect technical information as a basis for his arguments.

Also, by your very comparison of the PS3 and 360 (you claimed the 360 was more powerful), then there is absolute precedence in the cheaper console being stronger in a particular generation. And again, that doesn't really factor at all into the games and graphics we'll be getting.

Is PS4 a stronger system than X1? Yes, i'll attest to that from personal experience. Does that mean the X1 will have bad looking games and not be able to keep up with the hardware standard for the upcoming generation? Absolutely not. Buy whatever console that appeals to you; if you feel the X1 has a stronger value proposition TO YOU, then go ahead and purchase.

Maybe it's because I have first-hand experience with the boxes & OS' themselves, but i've already made up my mind which one will be my primary gaming-console next-generation, and that is PS4. And I make that decision paying no mind to how many people may or may not end up buying it or it being the stronger system - it literally has no factor in my purchasing decision. I just evaluated ALL of the functionality and use cases the console has, the environment the manufacturer is looking to create for the gaming experiences it seeks to foster, and what the console may potentially become in years time, and I feel its a stronger platform for ME. Ask yourselves similar questions and make up your own minds accordingly.

Shensolidus

I assume that the Xbox ONE would need to crank down the effects to keep up with the PS4. That's why many Xbox ONE games are 1080p last-gen games with slightly higher polygon-count and better textures.

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Well, I think the audio chip is for Kinect voice recognition, not for gaming. Kinect is going to have to be running in the background 24/7 keeping track of 50+ commands at many different languages. The audio block will be used for decoding verbal commands on the fly (Microsoft stressed OS smoothness).

It's just so strange that Microsoft would invest in sound rather than graphical computing power. Kinect is the only explanation.

Tighaman

Maybe that's why. Power gimped for Kinect ... good grief. :(

The point of the large amounts of ACEs is to compensate for the piss poor CPU in the PS4. The fine-grain computing architecture of the PS4's GPU allows large amounts of GPGPU computing with no hits to the graphical side of the GPU.

The Xbox ONE, on the other hand, doesn't have this. If the Xbox ONE wants to do GPGPU computing, not only will the effects be negligible, graphical grunt needs to be taken away from the GPU. Combine that with its piss poor CPU and it's a recipe for bottlenecks.

[QUOTE="Tighaman"]im going to say it again for torm and the rest of you fanboys its a reason that the greatest minds in gaming business never thought to put gddr5 as system ram its not efficient for the cpu especially if the cpu is weak. 7850 doesnt use all 32 rops please read why on your own All them ACEs dont mean anything 7950 has only two ACEs and blow the gpu in the ps4 away. And back to battlefield 4 its been two demos for that game ps4 specs and x1 specs all the multiplatform game I remember used to run the same demos for the same game but not this time not this gen why? Theres plenty of NEW AMD GPUs if you looked at just specs have less 12 cu and 16 rops and will blow that 7850 out the water with MS you always look ahead and never in the past.tormentos

I am going to tell you this again,GDDr5 need to be solder to the PCB it can't be made yet into Dimm forms so basically that is what has stop GDDR5 from taking over on your PC.

The PS4 GPU is strong than the 7850 and yes 32 ROP is need it when you go for higher resolutions than 1080p or 3D,Aces is what allow GCN to execute out of order instruction,since GCN is an in order GPU,more ACES more out of order executions,the PS4 GPU is actually more custom to take advantage of compute than the 7950 regarless of the 7950 having more power,which mean nothing because the damn xbox one doesn't have a damn 7950 it has a gimped 7790 with 2 CU less and lower clock speed.

Furthermore, even if GDDR5 is able to be used as system RAM, no manufacturer is going to bother, since CPUs require really low bandwidth and DDR3's bandwidth is sufficient to feed modern-day CPUs quite well. There's no point in putting a more expensive GDDR5 when most of its bandwidth would't even be utilized.

CPUs right now are several generations behind GPUs in terms of power, so they're not able to utilize high amounts of bandwidth. To get an idea, PS4's CPU can utilize just 20 GB/s. It's the GPU that needs to have high bandwidth.

[QUOTE="Blabadon"]Man, you're really bored, aren't you?mems_1224

You joking? Even that joke of a game Puppeteer is better than the 360 exclusive lineup for this year.

PS4 ISN'T a Japanese console. It was was heavily influenced by SCEA/SCEE and Western Developers. Not to mention we all know the Xbox One has no chance to beat Sony in Japan. Nonstop-Madness

This is what Applesexuals/iSheeps, Xboners, and Japanese gamers don't get.

International companies do not belong to any country. An educated population attracts companies to invest in the population with R&D centers. Americans have pretty good engineers (AMD & Cerny), so SONY financed Americans, NOT THE JAPANESE, to build their console.

Because Americans are better than the Japanese right now, Americans are benefitting more from the success of the PS4 than the Japanese are.