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#1 StarOne1
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[QUOTE="StarOne1"][QUOTE="wallymartin"]

The Rock will always be the People's Champ.  But IMHO, he was just too big for this business.  I recognize that, and I'm sure many other people do, too.  He's built a fairly good career in Hollywood.  I would always accept him back into wrestling, but he obviously loves acting more than wrestling(at least right now).  And besides, Rock's absence opens a hole for other superstars to grab the top spot.

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the rock can not be anyones champ until he finally accept his role as an actor,point blank,100 percent devoted,no more teasers giving us false hope of a return when it turned out that hes just plugging a movie.the rock need too cut all ties with the company,and if he wants to continue to advertise his new movies in the wwe,then he has too wrestle once in awhile.

That type of thing sounds like a spoiled way of thinking. A person's life should not be so black and white. You can't say don't approach your fans as a wrestler because you are not one any more. Vince was making money off of the Rock's movies and that is what he was doing for vince. Don't act like he turned is back on the WWE as it got a lot of exposure from him during that time as well.

Why does the Rock have to go around and say "Yeah, I have a new movie coming out based on the game Doom. Speaking of the Game HHH is a punk! I should kick his 6" nose in. Come see my movie and I will beat down HHH!" Wrestling is in his heart but there are bigger and better things for him. If he can have a job where he is home with his family more and has less of a chance of someone breaking his neck then I am hapy for him.

I think this move would be more hypocritical for HHH who toutes he will never leave wrestling than The Rock who knew there is more for him than this life of wrestling. He is a third generation star and I am sure that is why he has his respect for the business. However, he owes the fans nothing and shouldn't be expected to deliver anything.

As far as advertisments go how else should he address us? He is still The Rock and someone is paying for that time. That is how business and marketing works. He is saying what they tell him to say. If you hate this then take it up with capitalism.

lol,you all are making real bad defense for this guy,ok for one thing,you say he "advertises his movies",advertise the same way EVERYONE advertise,play a commercial or trailer,dont send a camera crew to the set,you say that hes "told to do so",thats bull,you really think he dont want to do it,hes saying'yea,they love me here,ill throw up my eyebrow,and all the wwf....what?its wwe now?oh,well ok,ill give them the peoples eyebrow and ask them if they see what the rock is doin,.....what?oh yea,thats right,smell what im cookin,whatever,i got them in the palm of my hands".you really think if he says "no,i dont want to have a camera crew here,im tired of stringing the people along like this,it isnt fair to them,i should just make a clean break from the bussiness" hell get fired or something,NO,so people stop acting like rock is just a victim of "advertisement".

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The Rock will always be the People's Champ.  But IMHO, he was just too big for this business.  I recognize that, and I'm sure many other people do, too.  He's built a fairly good career in Hollywood.  I would always accept him back into wrestling, but he obviously loves acting more than wrestling(at least right now).  And besides, Rock's absence opens a hole for other superstars to grab the top spot.

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the rock can not be anyones champ until he finally accept his role as an actor,point blank,100 percent devoted,no more teasers giving us false hope of a return when it turned out that hes just plugging a movie.the rock need too cut all ties with the company,and if he wants to continue to advertise his new movies in the wwe,then he has too wrestle once in awhile.

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[QUOTE="StarOne1"]as long as he continues to call himself the peoples champion,he cant just blantantly ignore the people,i mean come on,now all im saying is if he want to go to hollywood for more money ,then more power to him,but discontinue yourself from the wwe,stop advertising your movies and doing interviews saying your the peoples champ just to plug a movie,you cant have it both ways,you cant exploit the people this way,if your done rock,then stop using us for cheap plugskakkarott23

Last time I checked, advertising does not come free.  Also, advertising is the way you sell movies to audiences.  The Rock, Hogan (or more appropriately the production company's that are making their movies and shows) pay for that time.  The production company's that make The Rock's movies generally like to make profits so they buy the time to advertise on WWE TV.  Those production company's are "using" and "exploiting" us is the way the freakin' world works.  You advertise to the target audience you are trying to reach.  They are no different than Stacker 2 was, Snickers and other company's WWE is "brought to us by," Morphoplex for TNA.  That time does not come free.  The "plugs" that you see on WWE are hardly "cheap," WWE gets their share.

Also, keep in mind, WWE piggybacked on The Rock's name to get a chunk out of every Rock movie until "Be Cool." 

The Rock earned the nickname "the People's Champ."  He doesn't have to change that because you feel he owes you another match.

LOL,you only addressed half of my argument,what about everything else i said,sure advertising is great,no problem,but the shameless way he does it is horrible.advertise it as the hollywood rock,not te peoples rock,dont all the sudden throw some catch phrases at us and try to act like you still love this business the way you used too,if you did,show that love on tv.this isnt about me wanting "one more match",because lets face it,no one will ever settle for one match,we will keep wanting more,its all about the way he refuses to acknowledge his pass,and never likes to talk about the wwe,but a soon as he see a camera that says wwe,its ok to say something then,dont play us like fools rock,if you want to advertise dont throw any more famous catch phrases,because we do smell what your cookin,and it smells like bull****

You seem to forget those catch phrase are things he came up with. Those are his catch phrases to do with as he pleases. The WWE is the one who severed ties with him. He felt pissed off about that I am sure. Also, he is trying not to use his wrestling as a crutch. He wants to be know for his acting. When he was wrestling he wanted to be known for his skills there. When the companies pay for him to do advertisements as The Rock are you expecting him to be someone else.

Last I checked there wasn't a Peoples Championship Belt. That is who he is just like HHH is the Game, HBK Shawn Micheals, the bizzare one Golddust, Latino Heat, and some many others. That is his wrestling tag on

oh my god,why would the wwe give a contract to a guy who doesnt work,would you pay a guy who doesnt work,rock barely done anything for the wwe in the last couple of years in his contract,so why should they give him another contract,its just wrong. you know just as bad as i do,if the rock was still serious about wrestling,there was no chance in hell he would not have gotten his contract renewed!!!!

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i hope that they acknowledge edge,he is the reason why kurt angle is bald,and,im not sure,but i believe he was the one who created the famous "you suck" too his entrance music,so all of that deserve some type of reckonition
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[QUOTE="StarOne1"]hmmm,come on guys,mark henry isnt that bad,hes just over hyped right now,can you blame the wwe for trying to get the most out of this contract before it expires?ok,agreed,he doesnt deserve main event status,and trust me,he wont remain there,wait til the road to wm is over,then henry will regain his spot at mediocrity.manhunt1001


I still wouldnt want to put him in the mid-card either because he will take away the spotlight from guys like Benoit and Booker.

lol,you got to put a 10mill contract somewhere,what would you do with him?

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[QUOTE="StarOne1"]as long as he continues to call himself the peoples champion,he cant just blantantly ignore the people,i mean come on,now all im saying is if he want to go to hollywood for more money ,then more power to him,but discontinue yourself from the wwe,stop advertising your movies and doing interviews saying your the peoples champ just to plug a movie,you cant have it both ways,you cant exploit the people this way,if your done rock,then stop using us for cheap plugsThe_Dude14

Last time I checked, advertising does not come free.  Also, advertising is the way you sell movies to audiences.  The Rock, Hogan (or more appropriately the production company's that are making their movies and shows) pay for that time.  The production company's that make The Rock's movies generally like to make profits so they buy the time to advertise on WWE TV.  Those production company's are "using" and "exploiting" us is the way the freakin' world works.  You advertise to the target audience you are trying to reach.  They are no different than Stacker 2 was, Snickers and other company's WWE is "brought to us by," Morphoplex for TNA.  That time does not come free.  The "plugs" that you see on WWE are hardly "cheap," WWE gets their share.

Also, keep in mind, WWE piggybacked on The Rock's name to get a chunk out of every Rock movie until "Be Cool." 

The Rock earned the nickname "the People's Champ."  He doesn't have to change that because you feel he owes you another match.

LOL,you only addressed half of my argument,what about everything else i said,sure advertising is great,no problem,but the shameless way he does it is horrible.advertise it as the hollywood rock,not te peoples rock,dont all the sudden throw some catch phrases at us and try to act like you still love this business the way you used too,if you did,show that love on tv.this isnt about me wanting "one more match",because lets face it,no one will ever settle for one match,we will keep wanting more,its all about the way he refuses to acknowledge his pass,and never likes to talk about the wwe,but a soon as he see a camera that says wwe,its ok to say something then,dont play us like fools rock,if you want to advertise dont throw any more famous catch phrases,because we do smell what your cookin,and it smells like bull****

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I wanted to read everyones post before I jump all over this topic. I couldn't agree any less with the topic creator (No Offense). The Rock is the people's champ and will always be the people's champ. Just as Hogan will always be immortal and Shawn Micheals will be the heart break kid. Savage will always be the Macho Man and The Ultimate Warrior will always be screwed up in the head ( I went there)

I have been a Rock fan since he first debuted and haven't faltered since. Hell I even saw Walking Tall, The rundown, and doom (money well spent :roll:) but I support what he does. The guy is an entertainer and that is it. The only thing that has changed is his venue. The Rock is not a sell out. I never heard him say that he would wrestle until he couldn't anymore. I never heard him say I would never do movies. He always wanted more and this was a stepping stone for him (watch his episode of Driven one day on VH1)

A Sell Out is another word for a hypocrit. He wanted more and that is what he went for and isn't that the general meaning of capitalism and this country. I can not hate the Rock for what he did nor could I get mad at it. He does what normal people in the business world do and that is make goals and move forward in jobs. People don't work one company for life.

It is not the Rock's fualt right now he isn't under contract. The WWE didn't choose to renew his contract. When someone tells you "hey I don't need you anymore" you just move on. People don't go out there cause they simply like wrestling or because they feel people deserve to see them wrestle since they buy their merchandise. There are so many factors to it all. Plus you have to remember it is a business after all nothing more.

Lastly, does The Rock owe me another match? No! Would I mark out if I saw him wrestle again? In a heart beat! The Rock is doing his thing and I am happy for that. I wish him much success with his family and career. He will alway be "The Peoples Champ"

kakkarott23

you make a good point,but you also helpm me make my point,if he is truly done with wrestling,then dont send a camera crew to your movie set to plug your movie and suddenly wanna be a wwe superstar.He goes on tv and never mentions the wwe like he's ashamed of his past,but as soon as he releases a new movie,suddenly he wants to raise his eyebrow and throw out a few catch phrases,HES USING US,plain and simple,you may not want to admit it but he is.he only talks to the wwe fans when hes trying to plug a movie,and thats just the truth.

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Well, look at it this way, The Rock now gets paid more money to work significantly less at a job that is infinately less physically demanding but achieve popularity and celebrity status far beyond that which is possible for a wrestler.

Has The Rock sold out?  Yes, he has.  Can you blame him?  And if you were given the same option can you honestly tell me that you wouldn't do it to?

The Rock doesn't "owe" us anything.  The Rock doesn't "need" to do anything for us.  He's given us plenty of great memories over the years.  He has the option to give us a few more wrestling, if he choses, but he doesn't "have" or "need" to do anything for us, for a variety of reasons.  When the Rock has returned before, its not because he needed to, its because he wanted to.  Even with the safest workers in the business, there are tremendous risks to wrestling that could cost the Rock millions upon millions of dollars, if he were seriously injured wrestling.  If you were the Rock and you were thinking about taking that risk, wouldn't you want it to be against someone you actually wanted to wrestle.

Rock was not given any of the success he has achieved, he earned it.  He doesn't "owe" his fans another match, another movie, anything.  To say that Rock "needs" to come back for a match with HBK for his fans, IMO, is both selfish and ludicrous.  There is more than one side to every story.

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as long as he continues to call himself the peoples champion,he cant just blantantly ignore the people,i mean come on,now all im saying is if he want to go to hollywood for more money ,then more power to him,but discontinue yourself from the wwe,stop advertising your movies and doing interviews saying your the peoples champ just to plug a movie,you cant have it both ways,you cant exploit the people this way,if your done rock,then stop using us for cheap plugs

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personally,i like the whole lesbian scenario better :)
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If the storyline isn't run into the ground and abandoned, I imagine that Mickie will come to believe that she is Trish Stratus.mrogge1

huh?what do you mean,you mean that she will believe that,she is infact,mickie james is trish stratus,instead of trish stratus being trish stratus?