[QUOTE="Stavrogin_"][QUOTE="Asim90"]Bit of a contradiction there don't you think?Asim90

Maybe take off your blindfold when you come out of that cave? First you were revealing the message of Islam to us with your great insight, then you said you're not discussing the message.

Bit of a contradiction there don't you think?Asim90

If you really believe that the message of Islam is to kill others you need to step out of your cave. Maybe read a history book or go and speak to a real life Muslim.Asim90

[QUOTE="Stavrogin_"]People say you're not a real muslim or your not a real christian if you're violent but doesn't the bible/quran say use violence in certain situations, maybe those crusaders or jihadists who kill for god are the real believers?! :/omho88

The bible has probably converted more people to atheists than the "atheism books" of Dennet, Harris, Dawkins or Hitchens. That is, if you read it with an open mind and notice its mistakes and contradictions, the made up stories, myths and so on. So i would leave it as it is. On another note, if i could change it i might try trolling it a bit and add even more nonsense.

[QUOTE="Stavrogin_"]You know very well. If the bible says the earth is spherical rather then a circle (like a pancake) then the second part about the tent is just not possible. It is however totally possible and likely if the Earth is flat. And i'll ask again, how is it possible to see the whole Earth from the highest mountain if it's spherical?

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" and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world," All the kingdoms of the world; all the kingdoms of the world that were known to at the time. It is important to take into account historical context. Not nearly as much of the world was known at that time as it is now. It is also important to take into account hermeneutics; to interpret the passage. Did Satan actually take Jesus to the tope of the highest mountain in the world and show him all the kingdoms of the world? Was Jesus taken to the top of the highest known mountain to see all the known kingdoms in the world? Was it simply a parable written to show the reader/audience some of Jesus' teachings? All these ideas must be taken into account when studying the Bible.harashawn

[QUOTE="Stavrogin_"]If the earth is spherical that would make the part with the tent impossible. Also, how is it possible to see the whole Earth from the highest mountain if it's spherical?LJS9502_basic

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Isaiah 40:22- It is He who sits above the circle of the earth

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"He (God) sits enthroned above the circle of the earth." Isaiah 40:22

This passage from Isaiah was written approximately 2,750 years ago, nearly 750 years before Christ. The word for circle in Hebrew is khug which means to be made spherical, which is in total agreement with what we know of the Earth's shape today.

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