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So what's your point? You can't fathom String Theory or?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory
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I'm finally getting back to 'Demons' by Fyodor Dostoevsky after completely forgetting that I had it on the shelf and then putting it off due to distractions. On the side I'm also reading various collections I bought of Robert E. Howard stories in all sorts of genres.Lord_DaemonNow that's a great book! One of his best works and my favorite (that's obvious) i might add. :)
I guess i can't get over the fact that i'll die in about seventy years (a very optimistic estimate, if i get to live more than ninety) and i'll be forgotten after some time like everyone before me. Heck, most people advise me to just be modest and happy with the fact that i'm alive and living, but how can i be, i've been pulled out of nothingness, i was given a chance to live a life and like it, and now i'm supposed to be okay with the fact that in about two to three decades women won't notice me, in four decades i won't be able to play basketball or any other sport for that matter, and that in about six decades everything i ever was, my whole universe will disappear?[QUOTE="Stavrogin_"]
[QUOTE="jpph"]ok ok, fair enough. i dunno why nihilism makes you unhappy though, it sort of cheers me up. i wouldn't have necessarily put it next to negativity?mrbojangles25
On the other hand, i can't fool myself with the lies of religion and afterlife or reincarnation. Sure, when i'm laughing with friends it all goes away but that's just temporary, the feeling stays. F*** it i guess...
my father has some choice words for this mentality: "you're young, you'll get over it"
seriously, dude, indulge in this attitude all you want, in a couple years you will realize that A.) you are tired of being bummed out by the inevitable, and B.) you need to make the most with what you got.
Life is, for the most part, a level playing field if you want it to be, and any advantages others might get (wealth, beauty) can easily be compensated for with hard work, charisma, a positive outlook on life, and more. Is it fair? No, not really, but I think equality and achievement means more to those that are not given/born with above-average "stats".
I am overweight, and I know that in my town (which is a college town), some frat boy is getting laid every single night, but on the off chance I do manage to get with a beautiful girl (and it happens, not as much as I like, but it happens :P ) I think it means a lot more to me than it does to him. So its all even as far as I can see.
Life itself is not my problem, it's what happens after life, or rather, what doesn't happen. Point A will happen someday, or at least i hope so and point B is not what bothers me. Hypothetical situation, i'm extra rich and handsomer than Johnny Depp or some other sex symbol. Sure, i'll have all the fun in the world, drugs, alcohol, partying, being worshiped by the crowd and so on. And what? I'll die like everyone before and after me, death equals zero. There would be no big difference between me and a drunkard who died young. The only difference is that i lived slightly better, but what's the point when i won't be alive to remember it. What's the point of having sex with lets say Megan Fox if you won't remember it all, that's what i'm saying. Life has sense while you're living it but after death it doesn't. The only real solution in my opinion is a long life, not immortality but at least a few hundred thousand years of life, and that's not possible and won't be during my lifetime. So whether it's 80-90 years fulfilled life or not, it's still too goddamn short.But what you said is pretty much the only solution available. Existentialists say find a meaning in your life, that will make you happier but in my opinion that's just self-deception, my meaning has to have value and it can't when even Dostoevsky's books or Da Vinci's painting are worthless, sure they have meaning to us but what are and where do we live? Yeah... Man up and get over it, there is nothing i or anyone else can do about it. That's the only answer i guess.
You should definitely start with Zarathustra. ;)What a timely thread; I just got back from my local Borders with a few books. I got Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche, The Penguin Classics translation of The Koran, andA History of Spain and A History of Russia, both from the Oxford University Press. I'll probably start with Zarathustra.
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