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#1 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"][QUOTE="Baxhand"]

Who voted for UC3 mp? Over 100 people need an optomitrist. Gears wipes the floor with uc3 in mp graphics.

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not really. Yes if you look at these crappy pictures but not if you actually play it.

I'll believe my eyes over your take on the subject?

How about post new mp uc3 pictures that back up you claims?

Trusting people in here is like trusting a used car salesman.

This. 100 people are lying to themselves. I am a cow, and i have no problem admiting that Gears 3 looks better than this game. I have also come to the realization that cows are indeed the worst, and I have no problem admitting that. It is literally making my brain hurt that people are in this bad of denial. I respect other peoples opinions, but there is a point where it is beyond just a simple opinion. Anybody with functioning eyes can see that Gears 3 looks better. (in multiplayer at least).

Cows, for the love of almight christ, please stop hyping this games damn graphics, I beg of you. :x Stick to spamming the lists of GOTY awards or something else equally as meaningless. I promise you cows, it will be OK if Uncharted 3 isnt graphix king, there are still better looking games out right now on your platform, but for the love of all that is holy, the Uncharted graphics worship is so contrived it is not even funny.

You guys would not have given a rats ass about Uncharted's graphics if the gaming press was not shoving it down your throat.

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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] And he posted a really ugly pic. It looks much better than that

No it was actually a pretty good pic, better than yours in fact :S And u didn't say mw2 u said blops which has worse graphics than mw2. But in any case, look at all the jaggies :S it's sub hd and much less detailed. And look at the foliage. All that is just the tip of the iceberg

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lol. Im lvl 17 in the beta dude. Ive played probably a good 30-40+ matches, seen both maps from just about every possible angle. The beta is FULL of muddy PS2 textures like in the pictures in this thread. No offence to you but you are really kidding yourself if your telling yourself that thats only in one little unpolished spot or something. Both maps in their entirety look like that.

Its like you WANT Uncharted 3 to have this meaningless "graphics king" title so bad. Why? Why does Uncharted 3 need to be a "grafix king" so bad?

As far as that Black Ops pic being better than the ones I posted, how? A tiny downscaled picture that is obviously compressed compared to 2 direct feed shots taken with a capture card?

Not really I think you're lying, it's the best textures I've seen in a console game, what makes the beta so ugly is the aliasing, especially in airstrip, but the textures are great. In fact even in that ugly pic there is nothing wrong with the textures themselves. Anyway can you show me one pic that is not of stones? Cause I haven't seen one stone that looks good in consoles, just look at kz3.

Why you care about it not being grfx king then?

It's so tiny u can'tsee all the ugliness as in your mw2 shots

Here are videos of Uncharted 3 and Infamous 2.

Uncharted 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E21IWnoyx5A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klJxgk1fZAI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUqXPxthWBc

Infamous 2 (possible spoilers)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Xpy4LclAk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfD6Da4GuW0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpjPDQZxVko

Are you telling me Uncharted 3 looks better than that to you?

These textures are great to you? I dont know about you, but Ive never seen any trees that look like this before.

Now, compare it to this game:

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Now, I will say this, another arguement people have is that COD is infested with campers. Ive gone on record on how dissapointed I am over Uncharted 3's beta, but the game did make some improvements and I think CoD could learn something from Uncharted (ironic isnt it?). U3 implemented things like "power plays" and "metal kickbacks" which I absolutely LOVE. These things encourage you to not camp, and I think MW3 should copy this from Uncharted 3. To be honest, one of the biggest positives about Uncharted is that camping isnt the end of the world, and you really cant camp in the game anyways.

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I agree with this notion. However, this board is absolutely filled to the brim with Call of Duty Hateboys and insecure battlefield fanboys so bad its not even funny. I can understand people hating that they release new games every year, and that the campaigns are 4 hour low production value trash,but god damn lol. Other than that, like it or not, Call of Dudy has PERFECT controls and fast paced gameplay. The franchise has perfected its gameplay formula, and there really isnt much else they could do anyways. It is interesting, however, seeing the most rediculous reasons people can come up with to hate on the franchise.

Why would they spend millions of dollars producing some amazing high budget campaign, when nobody even cares about call of duty's campaign anyways? Most people wouldnt even play it and only buy the games solely for multiplayer anyways. So from activision's standpoint, why bother? a small minority of the internet community b****es about the fact that the campaign isnt freaking Uncharted 2 or Red Dead Redemption, but at the end of the day, gamers dont even care. Why should they put all this effort into making the single player be like one of the above titles, when the games fanbase dont even WANT it? The games userbase just wants more maps and more weapons, so they are getting more maps and more weapons. Simple as that.

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#5 StrongDeadlift
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Wow, apart from the gorgeous lighting, Uncharted 3 looks pretty ugly. :? Gears 3 looks better, but it still looks pretty meh....

PrettyHateMx
Finally, someone who isnt blind lol. i feel like the gaming press is forcing the whole "uncharted, grafix king" thing down everyones throats, and everyone is forcing themselves to think it is true. If the gaming press never said anything, nobody would have looked twice at Uncharted 2's graphics, nor 3's.
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

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Well first of all aesthetic is not what we're talking about here as that's 100% opinion if it's good or not.

Secondly you took the absolute worse picture of flippin stones, and as far as I know stones is really hard to make look good. Look at KZ3 for example. Still it does a pretty good job. And fact is I've looked at textures from up really close in U3 beta and still it looks really good. Look here the floor is almost lifelike: In any case even if that picture is representative of U3 it still looks 1 million times better than black ops.

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I used the picture the TC posted in his OP.

EDIT: Just saw edit. Really? The worst picture of black ops you could find? I'll do ya one better. Here are direct feed screens of Modern Warfare 2 on PS3.

And he posted a really ugly pic. It looks much better than that

No it was actually a pretty good pic, better than yours in fact :S And u didn't say mw2 u said blops which has worse graphics than mw2. But in any case, look at all the jaggies :S it's sub hd and much less detailed. And look at the foliage. All that is just the tip of the iceberg

lol. Im lvl 17 in the beta dude. Ive played probably a good 30-40+ matches, seen both maps from just about every possible angle. The beta is FULL of muddy PS2 textures like in the pictures in this thread. No offence to you but you are really kidding yourself if your telling yourself that thats only in one little unpolished spot or something. Both maps in their entirety look like that.

Its like you WANT Uncharted 3 to have this meaningless "graphics king" title so bad. Why? Why does Uncharted 3 need to be a "grafix king" so bad?

As far as that Black Ops pic being better than the ones I posted, how? A tiny downscaled picture that is obviously compressed compared to 2 direct feed shots taken with a capture card?

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#7 StrongDeadlift
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wait, so you are trying to exploit their welcome back program in an effort to get MORE free games, than the $60 worth of free games they were already giving you for free anyways, yet you are mad at them? :?

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#8 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] welcome to gamespot....

but seriosly U3 looks way way better than black ops. Exept the jaggies tell me what looks better in blops?

charlesdarwin55

Well for starters, the PS2 like textures, and low polygon count. Also Uncharted's aesthetic looks like a damn cartoon or something. Its just so awkward to look at. At least objects in black ops, as well as all the other games I mentioned actually look real. The game also just looks so unpolished it is rediculous. I know its a beta, but lets not kid ourselves, Uncharted 2's multiplayer looked just the same. Especially when all I hear is "teh polish and teh production values". I honestly do not see it.

Uncharted 3 from the beta footage literally looks like an upscaled PS2 game to me.

Well first of all aesthetic is not what we're talking about here as that's 100% opinion if it's good or not.

Secondly you took the absolute worse picture of flippin stones, and as far as I know stones is really hard to make look good. Look at KZ3 for example. Still it does a pretty good job. And fact is I've looked at textures from up really close in U3 beta and still it looks really good. Look here the floor is almost lifelike: In any case even if that picture is representative of U3 it still looks 1 million times better than black ops.

I used the picture the TC posted in his OP.

EDIT: Just saw edit. Really? The worst picture of black ops you could find? I'll do ya one better. Here are direct feed screens of Modern Warfare 2 on PS3.

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#9 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

GTA IV is 3 years old game and it looks better than Infamous 2,RDR too.KZ3 looks sweet though...

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lol, no. Why do I have the burning suspicion you havent even played Infamous 2? RDR is debatable though.

GTA IV is the most impressive title this gen IMO.There is alot of things why I think like this.First,its native 720p,open world game title,deferred rendering game(meaning hundreds of light sources with small performance impact) and it actually has MSAA(unlike IF2).It's animations and physics(especially car handling) is absolutely top notch,where bodies actually fully react to how they are affected while keeping a realistic human movement scheme.Just try to hit someone by car in GTAIV,you will see what I'm talking about.It takes alot of resurces and work time to do it right in open world game...

GTA IV(and RDR) feel like alive world,IF2 and other open world games(while also looking great) do not,they feel static.R*'s RAGEdoes all in realtime.Rrealtime shadows, good realtime reflections, excellent shaders for paint etc. 3D water with world reflections, huge draw distances and tons of objects, millions and millions of polygons per frame. Then add in hundreds of dynamic lightsources, limited destructibility, 24/7 light scheme, IIRC procedural sky, wetness shader, POM, etc etc etc.

I do think that IF2 looks great,no doubt it does(characters look better than GTA IV too) but some things just scream "cheating".Like,if you try to get on the highest building you will not see the entire city,there is alot of DOF/fog to hid low LOD of other buildings.Another one is pretty evident too,the whole city is made(like in first one) that its easily occluded,meaning almost all buildings are same in height so you can't see alot of them meaning less polygons to render.Its total opposit to GTAIV where you can get into chopper,in the middle of the night and see entire city,with hundreds of light sources and buildings like in palm of your hand(thats why it can drop frames there).Its tech packed game and even if it doesn't in some things look as good as IF2(character models,frame rate,textures) its definitely the most impressive title this gen(again IMO).R* is premium developer,with more programmers than entire Sucker Puch team,thats why they are delivering best open world experience since last gen,bar none.

Just asking, have you played Infamous 2? Or is all of this based off of youtube videos?
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#10 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] Trolling is fun?charlesdarwin55

I guess stating my opinion is considered trolling around these parts :?

welcome to gamespot....

but seriosly U3 looks way way better than black ops. Exept the jaggies tell me what looks better in blops?

Well for starters, the PS2 like textures, and low polygon count. Also Uncharted's aesthetic looks like a damn cartoon or something. Its just so awkward to look at. At least objects in black ops, as well as all the other games I mentioned actually look real. The game also just looks so unpolished it is rediculous. I know its a beta, but lets not kid ourselves, Uncharted 2's multiplayer looked just the same. Especially when all I hear is "teh polish and teh production values". I honestly do not see it.

Uncharted 3 from the beta footage literally looks like an upscaled PS2 game to me.