The perfect reason (at least to me) why Brawl and other online Nintendo games don't have voice chat, taken from an IGN article:

Masahiro Sakurai: When thinking about this game and when realizing that we were going to do Wi-Fi, we had to think a lot about the whole idea of communication over the Internet. When we were doing this, one of the things that we paid a lot of attention to is the fact that there are a lot of unpleasant experiences to be had out there, be that being insulted over the Internet or that sort of thing. You know, it's one thing if you're used to it and you're playing a first-person shooter online with 16 people and you know these guys and you're trading insults back and forth and yelling at each other, that's all well and good. But when you've got new players, and one thing I've aimed to do is to really bring new players into the fold, if this is their first online experience I want it to be a pleasant one. I want to dodge and avoid those kinds of situations that could make the whole experience online psychologically damaging or unpleasant, so that's one of the reasons we've decided not to include that feature.

Now I can understand how voice chat would help and enhance the gameplay in a game like Medal of Honor: Heroes 2, but the Wii doesn't have many games out on the market like this. The feature will come eventually, probably when the first Pay to Play game comes out, but right now there's really no game that calls for voice chat. I could see how it could be cool in Mario Kart, if you can get people not to drop f-bombs into the mic when they get taken out by a blue shell just before the finish line, but it's not necessary at all. Want to slam anonymous people online? Well...there's the 360 or the PC.

I want to divert from the obvious answer (coughcoughSONICcoughcough) and say that MegaMan is entering epic fail territory. I'd say Donkey kong, but he still has a chance to live up to expectations of yore, but as of right now, MegaMan is blowing it...aside from Sonic of course

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Oh God, I totally forgot about the Blue Bomber. Outside of those two PSP games (one being a remake of Mega Man X), when's the last time a Mega Man game was worth the full price? Think I stopped playing the MM games after the last X title that came out on the SNES.

Peeple buy games for gore? -__-m_machine024

Manhunt, dude. Only reason why people play those games. Personally, in games like NMH, I think the gratuitous amount of blood fits. The whole game is intentionally campy, so the over-the-top violence seems to fit.

And yeah, I think the AUS version takes away the blood, but I'm not sure if anything else is censored.

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I don't think that's an option.

It is, because games with the blue WiFi logo will remain completely free to play. (this includes SSBB and Mario Kart)

Pay to Play is an option publishers can choose whether to exploit.

but the free games arent pay for play

Yeah, but there is a mistaken notition going around that Nintendo will start charging for ALL online play. From the wording of his post, it sounds like this is what the OP believes.

That's actually one of the fears I have about this new Pay to Play system. Nintendo doesn't have to force it on any developer, but what if it really takes off with a few titles. The Big N may think consumers won't mind paying for online service on all Wi-Fi games. As long as people are paying for certain games, maybe they'd pay a permanent fee for all online games in the future? Then it'll be like Xbox Live; I'm paying $50 a year to play Mario Party 9 online when it would have been completely free a short while ago. The worst thing about that would be that the new paying online system probably wouldn't be as easy and accessible as the competition's.

I'd love to say that the idea is completely unplausible, but c'mon: it's Nintendo! I love the company, but they always find a way to take your money by adding small increments to things or producing items that aren't really necessary. Examples: adding color schemes to new hardware; making the hardware slightly smaller; releasing loads of peripherals that either don't work or don't add anything to the gameplay (the Power Glove fits that example perfectly).

Like I said before, as long as the game that is requiring you to pay is worth it, I may pay a small fee, but it better have some serious substance.

As soon as I read the title of this thread I immediately thought of Sonic. You could make the argument that the non-platform Mario & friends francise is falling apart with all the party and sports games that come out each year, but at least they're funner to play than any Sonic game I've picked up in the last 9 years. Seriously...last good Sonic game I thought was worth playing was the first Adventure on the Dreamcast.

It's not that I don't think the games are horrible, but the quailty of them has sunk so low when you compare them to the sheer fun of the first 3 Sonic games on the Genesis. When they put in confusing storylines, lame cutscenes with worst voice acting, and featured characters that weren't Tails, Knuckles, or Amy is where the series jumped shark, I think.

If you're talking about strictly Nintendo francises, then I'd say the DK series. Donkey Kong Country: awesome! DKC2: sweet. DKC3: why? The series came back with DK64, which was pretty cool, but then they went to bongo games, the latest one on the Wii being laughably bad. If they made another Country game, though, I'd think the series would be right on track.