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#1 TheMISCMan48
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[QUOTE="The-Mosher"]

Well, then I call a fail bash.


EDIT: I just saw his post on the hype thread. Mr. TC man, was it really necessary to make this thread when you could have just kept posting in the Reach Hype thread? Seems like a waste of time IMO.

AdmiralBison

Because he wants his Halo bashing to stand out hence a seperate thread and not within the sticky and also to insinuate it so it will avoid the mods.

Remember this is HALO!- the bashing from fanboys since 2001 comes with the territory.

actually I'm quite surprised there is not as much bashing like the past few years?

have Cows come to realise that there hating is pretty much futile and millions of people don't really care?

Wasnt hating to be honest. I really dont care that much about system wars, nor did I put that much thought into this thread.

I love how lemmings are so arrogant when it comes to halo, as if it is the best selling game series of all time or something :lol: .You do realize that last gen the halo games sold nowhere NEAR as much as alot of PS3 AAA games?

FYI, Gran Turismo STILL sells more than halo.

Halo 3 is the only game in the series to recieve the sales it has, and it has BARELY outsold the lowest selling grand turismo game ;). God I wish 360 fanboys would stop acting like Halo is the highest selling game in the world.

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#2 TheMISCMan48
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:lol: as I know you, I know your saying this in regard to halo reach, Halo reach will sell more in a week then uncharted 2 has in its entire time on the market, it will all so have more players in 4 years then uncharted 2 will have after a months time.

proofs in the pudding.

Sales and user base mean every thing.

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Ok. Dont know what that means for you but whatever. Gran Turismo 5 will be the best game on both platforms then ;) And no, sales mean NOTHING other than how much money was thrown at the marketing campaign.
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#3 TheMISCMan48
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I love how you declare it official like everyone agreed on it. Where do you get off deciding that it is king? KZ3 isn't even out and cows are already praising it for whatever reasons they can think of because it will not be graphics king.

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Lol, and what WILL be graphics king then? Gears 3? I loled.
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#4 TheMISCMan48
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if you love the art direction of killzone, you must have been going nuts for lost planet back in the day.markinthedark

Too bad the actual game didnt look like that, and was a bland, washed out mess.

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#5 TheMISCMan48
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[QUOTE="TheMISCMan48"]

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

Stalker is just about technical graphics? The more you say about Stalker the more I get the impression that you have never even played the game.

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And, what does Stalker throw at your sensory perception? What actually goes on in the environment? I posted examples of what I was talking about to back up my post, and you posted nothing except "youve never played the game".

Watch this Killzone vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_xSqPOCG58&hd=1 (@ 0:05) and tell me how many things the environment has going on, and what the game throws at your sensory perception.

Now watch this Stalker vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asrymsBSnGk&hd=1

What is going on in this video? Absolutely nothing. The environment is completely dead. If this is a bad video, or you have a better one that actually shows something happening I am encouraging you to post it. Everybody wants to get offended by me toating Killzone 3, but nobody wants to post better examples lol.

It's kind of difficult to tell the atmosphere of a game from a youtube video. It's like removing the bass from a rock song.

lol, I asked what both videos had going on in the environments and what effects they threw at your sensory perception. That is easily noticabe from both videos.
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[QUOTE="TheMISCMan48"]The thing about Killzone and stalker as far as atmosphere goes(and I respect your opinion by the way) is that Killzone isnt just about technnical graphics. Its not just about higher resolution textures, or better lighting (like stalker) its also about how many things the game throws at your sensory perception. Stalker doesnt have much going on, its just a dead space pretty much. While Killzone 3 throws many more things at your sensory perception,DraugenCP

Stalker is just about technical graphics? The more you say about Stalker the more I get the impression that you have never even played the game.

And, what does Stalker throw at your sensory perception? What actually goes on in the environment? I posted examples of what I was talking about to back up my post, and you posted nothing except "youve never played the game".

Watch this Killzone vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_xSqPOCG58&hd=1 (@ 0:05) and tell me how many things the environment has going on, and what the game throws at your sensory perception.

Now watch this Stalker vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asrymsBSnGk&hd=1

What is going on in this video? Absolutely nothing. The environment is completely dead. If this is a bad video, or you have a better one that actually shows something happening I am encouraging you to post it. Everybody wants to get offended by me toating Killzone 3, but nobody wants to post better examples lol.

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The thing about Killzone and stalker as far as atmosphere goes(and I respect your opinion by the way) is that Killzone isnt just about technnical graphics. Its not just about higher resolution textures, or better lighting (like stalker) its also about how many things the game throws at your sensory perception. Stalker doesnt have much going on, its just a dead space pretty much. While Killzone 3 throws many more things at your sensory perception,

-Like, the water has a huge feeling of depth and vastness, and the ocean actually behaves like an artic ocean would. The iceburgs/glaciers move up and down realistically as the water moves, really giving you the feeling of ice and a vast ocean.

-Not just the look of the water, but the sound of the water. They really put an effort into creating an ambiance for you to experience. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-hjmku8HCM&hd=1

-also, the wind and snow blow around extremely realistically, and has an effect on the environment.

-little effects like the stream that comes out of grenades (I know Killzone 2 had this but it is more refined in K3). you can tell they added and tweaked alot of little effects like this specifically for its effect on your sensory perception when you play it in 3D, and it actually makes the 2D game look better. See my example here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_xSqPOCG58&hd=1

Its not just about what it looks like, its how many things they load into your senses.

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#8 TheMISCMan48
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Super Mario Galaxy has 73 reviews on Metacritic and not a single one is below a 90. Mario galaxy 2 has 87 reviews and not one is below a 90. Both have 97 averages

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Just saying, Uncharted 2 had 80+ reviews (possibly 90+, I dont remember) and not a single one was below 90 before the first AA review came out for it, so that doesnt really mean much. Uncharted 2 managed to keep every review above 90 for about 80-90 reviews before someone finally gave it lower. The same could happen for SMG2 (however I admit it wouldnt really matter, because the games are in the same balpark)

Not only that, but im not challenging the quality of those games, because Uncharted 2 is not far behind. Halo reach, however will most likely stagnate at 92.

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#9 TheMISCMan48
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]The hell is up with these Uncharted 2 threads?edo-tensei
Beats me. Well I guess cows just want something right now to counter the release of reach, lol gt5 is still too far off.

You realize that this is the only cow made Uncharted 2 thread thats been made recently right? The majority of the recent Uncharted 2 threads are started by lemmings (for the last few days at least). Usually about how Uncharted 2 is overrated, or how Gears 3 is superior in graphics (lol).
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#10 TheMISCMan48
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This thread is kinda useless without pics :P Why cant people show pictures of their favorite art direction instead of text? Or at least.. read the thread. Personally, I think Mirrors Edge has possibly my favorite art direction (Im an architectural student - Im biased :P) But it doesnt excuse Killzones awesome art and distinct style. We have challenged them before - but nobody seems capable of doing it... Show us another game with the same 'generic' art style as Killzone. With a term like 'generic' it shouldnt be hard :Pbloodlust_101
THIS. I didnt mean for this thread to be a flamewar lol, dont know why people get offended so easily.

Like I said in several other posts, they are just saying that to bash the game. Ask them to post a game with a similar art direction and they cant. Now, if you asked me to post a game with art direction to Gears of War? :lol: I could post you 20 games that look like it.

Not to mention everyone keeps saying "Too gray" and "Too brown" yet those colors ARE NOT EVEN PRESENT in ANY of the pictures I posted (or at least the filters).

They also say the game lacks colors and filter, but in the screens and footage ive shown in this thread alone, we have seen: Blue, White, Green, Orange, red and Peach filters.

They pretty much turned this game into Uncharted 2 and they are still throwing around the words "grey" and "brown" :roll:. They are simply using this because it is the most convinient insult they can think of at the time.