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#1 TheMISCMan48
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I made this thread, and it got locked for the fanboyish way I formatted it, so I will recreate it with less bias. this is an important discussion for system wars.

When you compare the sales of two titles, you MUST take into account how much money was allocated for the games advertising budget. Two of the most common games that fanboys like to compare every game's sales up to, are Halo 3, and Modern Warfare 2. Games like Killzone 2 are constantly belittled by fanboys of the 2 former franchises as being "crap" because their game "sold" more. What these fanboys fail to take into account is the fact that not only did Microsoft spend $200 Million dollars marketing Halo 3:

While the $55 million spent on making Halo 3 pales into insignificance compared to the$200 million Microsoft reportedly spent on marketing the game.

But that Activision gave Modern Warfare 2 a $200 LAUNCH advertisment campaign (that and the stimulus and resurgance map packs had their own seperate marketing campaigns).

Call of Duty [Modern Warfare 2] cost $40 million to $50 million to produce, people close to the project said, about as much as a mid-size film.Including marketing expenses and the cost of producing and distributing discs, the launch budget was $200 million, on par with a summer popcorn movie -- and extremely high for a video game.

All compared to Sony's measly£2 million advertisment campaign (Im from the US, but think thats about $4 Million USD).

Now, it is foolish and silly to compare a game like Killzone 2 to Halo 3 or Modern Warfare 2 in terms of sales considering this. Now, this has NOTHING to do with the quality of the titles here, but to sit here and say that Halo 3 sells so well because its just that damn good, is just rediculous. Especially since games like Uncharted 2 scored higher than both of them on almost every site, yet sold less, should be enough to show you that sales are indicative of NOTHING more than the size of a games marketing budget.

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#2 TheMISCMan48
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[QUOTE="TheMISCMan48"]

im just gonna throw this little bit out there for whatever its worth :P

Killzone 2 has over 100 death animations

mitu123

That's cool, hope they're all good.:P

And thats just Killzone 2. Here is a video of Killzone 3's beautiful death animations for you guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_xSqPOCG58(@ 0:14)

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#3 TheMISCMan48
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im just gonna throw this little bit out there for whatever its worth :P

Killzone 2 has over 100 death animations

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#4 TheMISCMan48
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Well I sure do, In fact I think it's a perfect game, I could replay it a million times and not get sick of it, I love every track of the soundtrack, I love all the characters, I love the combat system, the graphics, the leveling up system, the side quests, and I love the story most of all.

Final Fantasy VII didn't really do it for me, but Crisis Core was easily one of my favourite games of all time. Who else agrees with me ?

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Not sure if srs. Pretty much everything you listed are the reasons I hate the game. The soundtrack was pure ass compared to what final fantasy is known for ( techno rock, lol wut?) the combat system was laughably unbalanced (the game pretty much plays itself. You just have to rely on the random actions to work in your favor(don't remember what the proper name is as I sold my copy ove a year ago and vaguely remember the details). The leveling system made you too powerful too fast, so battles weren't even a challenge, the side missions were kind of fun, but they were pretty much just put there just to extend the game. As for the graphics, yes they are nice, but the game uses so much ram into making it pretty that you can't even walk anywhere( invisible walls galore) and there are loading screens every 10 feet. As you can prolly tell, I don't really remember that much about the game since I sold my psp a year ago. There is actually things I hate about the game that I don't even remember. I will never know how in the hell this game scored higher here than God of War: chains of olympus, but honestly, the games box art was of more value than the actual game IMO.
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#5 TheMISCMan48
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Gears 3 looks better than Uncharted 3. I think it's between GeoW 3 and K3, but I think we should wait and see more of both games before SW gets flooded by these threads.

Karnage108

Uncharted 3 isnt out yet ;).

And no. It doesnt look better than Uncharted 2.

And even if it comes close to Uncharted 2's territory, then you would (hypothetically) STILL have God of War 3 to surpass (lol). And even if by some miracle that happened, it still aint f'ing with Killzone 3. Not even close to being close :lol:

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#6 TheMISCMan48
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And just to deliver the deathblow to this thread :D

Killzone 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_t3A7YgFbk&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_xSqPOCG58

And the best Uncahrted 2 levels:

Ice caves:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qzXUJqCTDU&feature=related

Monastery:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpS5rYFrT8o&feature=related

Locomotion:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG0ZHRfvdlg&feature=related

Honestly, after watching so many Killzone 3 screens, I cant even look at Uncharted 2 anymore, let alone Gears 3.

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#7 TheMISCMan48
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[QUOTE="veggidudevorce"]The effects? The models? The animations? Exactly what in GeOW3 is better than this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA4Yegsd5OU

You picked the least asthetically pleasing level in the entire game to show off lol. Ice caves, monastery, train level and the opening level would look better. Actually, pretty much every other level in the game would have done better.
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#8 TheMISCMan48
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[QUOTE="pc-ps360"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

I didn't see any big improvement in graphics to be honest

jun_aka_pekto

killzones graphics are amazing but i agree i cant see imprvements on graphics

The graphics does look brighter. But all videos of KZ3 so far have the same grainy quality I saw in KZ2. Is that a bad thing? I'm not sure. But, my tastes go for the cleaner looking games such Halo: Reach and God of War 3. Between those two latter games, it's a much tougher call for me.

from what I saw the game is MUCH cleaner than most games on the market. What do you mean? Like, uncharted level of "cleanness"?
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#9 TheMISCMan48
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Killzone 3 has taken all of my attention from resistance.
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#10 TheMISCMan48
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Sucks to be you I guess :?

Glad I never had to deal with any of that, and my experience with sony has been the best in my entire gaming life.

Lol @ a 360 owner complaining about bad customer service.