@GOGOHeadray @The_Beanster Far Cry and to a lesser extent Crysis were quite good. They've never excelled in story/characters, but that's true of 99.99999% of FPS games.

They only dropped the ball with Crysis 2 and later, and I don't know why. But that cannot be explained by simply focusing on graphics, because all their games have had great graphics.

@Stogin @The_Beanster EXACTLY. He is not commenting on story. He is assuming a comparison between game A with crap graphics, and game A with good graphics. Obviously game A with better graphics will be the more immersive experience.

Everyone is freaking out over things he's not talking about.

@GOGOHeadray I disagree. You're assuming (along with most people in here, it seems), that Yerli is arguing that better graphics MAKE a better game by definition even if everything else about the game is crap.

If that is what Yerli is arguing, he's an idiot. There is no way he is arguing that.

What he is arguing is that "better graphics ENABLE better games". That's the best way to understand his phrase "graphics driving gameplay" IMO

@GOGOHeadray You tell me which is better:

A deep, well designed, well written game using 8-bit 2D sprites.

Or the same deep, well designed, well written game using Unreal Engine 4.

If your answer is the latter, you are conceptually in agreement with Yerli's statement.

@GOGOHeadray @The_Beanster The graphics (and other technical parts of the game) enable the better gameplay and story etc.

There's a reason that the PS4 will be more powerful than the PS3, which was more powerful than the PS2, which was more powerful than the PS1, etc...

Like I said, everyone here is conceptually in agreement with Yerli. He just shouldn't have thrown out this stupid 60% number that has no relevance.

@Kawaii_Uguu @The_Beanster your PC is bad if you can't even play Crysis 3 at 30fps

@l_skipper That makes no sense.

@MalakTawus I already made the aesthetics/technical distinction below. You're preaching to the choir.

The 60% number is stupid, but it's only stupid because you cannot break games down that way.

His POINT about how graphics driving immersion is correct so long as you understand it to mean "graphics enable better games" rather than "graphics definitively make better games" (and I think we can give him the benefit of the doubt on that)

@KiLLLeR150 If you were around for the PS2 and earlier, you would know that part of what made those games so exciting was how they also pushed technical aspects of games further.

@l_skipper Apparently since Crysis 2 for Crytek. A focus on graphics cannot be the answer for "why Crytek's games suck", because their two best games had freaking fantastic graphics.