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#1 Tokugawa77
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It's what conservative ideology strives for;

rich get richer, poor get poorer

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=LJ2tqah0PFc
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#3 Tokugawa77
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#37 bill nye basically explaining things like the fox anchor is a childimaps3fanboy
I loved the part- "Uh... no volcanoes don't have anything to do with fossil fules."
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Most of those just seem like desperate attempts at attacking them. You can't put 99% of them in proper context and a few werent even made by fox....You can find things to attack them over, those just aren't any of them.DarkOfKnight
They got a miss America winner to comentate on communism in children cartoons... I don't even think you need to try to laugh at fox nowadays
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[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"][QUOTE="SamusFreak"]

and its the nature of his accomplishment that makes me shake my head at it. They compare him to Hitler Hitler fought a major war with the other major powers of the world. Khan, went throughout largely peasant Asia, and butchered peasants. Most of the Juicy stuff, and the biggest accomplishments of that Empire, weren't even made by him, but by his sons. Why he's so revered, I'll never understand. Anyone can drive tanks over helpless people when there is no one to take out the tanks.

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He unified the heavily divided Mongol tribes and conqured as far as Kazakhstan with an army dwarfed by every enemy they fought. etc, etc

Vast armies of rabble are easy to manipulate and conquer, many far more honorable men did the same. Many did so far more outnumbered, Khan was outnumbered, but not dwarfed. He faced enemies that were disorganized/poorly organized, that made many mistakes and poor judgement calls. far more often, he used cruel and brutal tactics against their peoples to beat them into submission, than actually besting them in bouts on the battlefield. He got far in his time, but what I said was true, the greatest extensions into Asia, Europe, and the Middle East were achieved long after his death, the Empire saw it's greatest expansion near the end of the 13th Century, he about a half century before it.

Half of the empire was created by Genghis, and he laid teh basis for future conquests. Do you really think his successors were any less brutal? If anything, many were much less successful, launching ill-fated invasions of Japan, Vietnam, Jakarta, and the Holy Land. Genghis Khan faced actual empires- you are forgetting that at the time, the mongols were just nomadic tribes, no one could have forseen their swift rise. It was Genghis who organized them into a fearsome fighting unit, and cemented them as a nation for the first time in their history.
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10 made me mad at how stupid some peopel are, 11 actually made me laugh out loud.
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Basically I'm fiscal conservative, social liberal.
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]Being Arabic, it's pretty interesting how people feel when they hear of his bloody accomplishments... one more thing to relate with the Jewish people.SamusFreak

and its the nature of his accomplishment that makes me shake my head at it. They compare him to Hitler Hitler fought a major war with the other major powers of the world. Khan, went throughout largely peasant Asia, and butchered peasants. Most of the Juicy stuff, and the biggest accomplishments of that Empire, weren't even made by him, but by his sons. Why he's so revered, I'll never understand. Anyone can drive tanks over helpless people when there is no one to take out the tanks.

He unified the heavily divided Mongol tribes and conqured as far as Kazakhstan with an army dwarfed by every enemy they fought. etc, etc
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="Tokugawa77"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"]I love this whole "they earned it" excuse people come up with. You guys do know how the top 0.1% of the country's income earners make their money, right? It's not by working. A lot of them even don't work at all. Rather they just collect obscene amounts of money off of annual stock dividends. And thanks to the tax rates on marginal gains, they also get taxed less than you do if you make $35,000 or more a year, even if they're pulling in hundreds of millions of dollars that year. But that's not the best part. The best part is that they can then use their extraordinary wealth to bribe congressmen (in the form of campaign contributions) to introduce legislation that benefits only them at the cost of everyone else. Hence why the tax rate on the top bracket has plummeted in the last few decades while no other class saw noticeable differences in their taxes (funny enough, the average income for the top 1% has risen steadily since the 1970s whereas the average income for the other 99% has remained frozen since the mid 70s; and yes, that's all adjusting for inflation). Really the only reason that this extreme wealth disparity exists in the US (and yes it is extreme, it's on par with third world African countries) is because our culture has done a great job at brainwashing people into thinking that they're DEFINITELY going to be millionaires (or even billionaires!) one day. People think that it's just the matter of opening the right business or making the right invention or making your big break in hollywood or winning the lottery (probably the most likely of all these options to actually work). In reality, you're stuck in the middle class. Even if you get into the top 1% by being a doctor or lawyer (or even most businessmen), you're actually STILL not part of the wealthy everyone is upset about. You're at the border between the 98th and 99th percentiles. The real wealthy are concentrated the top 0.1%, and it's not until you get to the top 0.05% that you reach the Bill Gates and Rupert Murdochs of the country.

Well, that's capitalism. The guys who made millions from stocks earned them- they took a risk, and it paid off. I think that actors, pro sports players, etc are payed way too highly, but again- capitalism. Everything is worth what it's purchaser will pay for it. The only sure way to make it in this country is to graduate from high shcool, and hopefully go to college, which is the way it should be. Sometimes (NOT in all cases, mind you- some people are just born poor and don't have the opportunity for good education), blue collar workers are in that position because they didn't prioritize their school work as kids and teens, and thus couldn't find a high paying jobs. usually, capitalism gives everyone what they deserve.

Actually the people who make millions off of stocks just had a very large pool of money to draw from, and they don't put it in risky ventures but rather safe bets like Intel and Microsoft. It's almost unheard of for a person to start off with a penny stock and end up rich. Also, going to college hardly ensures you'll succeed. A LOT of people graduate college just to wind up in jobs that don't even require a college degree. Furthermore, when you consider college debt it can actually make you worse off. No offense, but you sound like you're still early in high school from how naive about the real world you sound in your post. I mean, saying something like "blue collar workers are in that position because they didn't prioritize their school work as kids and teens, and thus couldn't find a high paying jobs" is something that I could only ever imagine a child saying because they're just parroting what their parents and teachers tell them (ironically their teachers being a prime example of people who did finish college, often grad school for a master's degree, only to earn less than the national average income).

None taken. I understand that my opinion sounds like a stereotypical "foothills" kid, but that does not stop me from beleiving it, just from personal experience. Out of all my friends in from high school, I think only one makes over $20,000 a year. None of them had better than a 3.0 GPA- most were happy to just pass their classes and nothing more. The last time I met with one of them, he complained about how he was being screwed over by the government, but I knew clearly why he was in the position he was in. Granted, I'm not that far out of college, so they havn't really been working long, but it's clear to me that they don't have that many future options. Fair point about the college debt, though.