The sales are going on for only one day. These are great games worth far more than they are being sold for today. Enjoy.

This may be common knowledge by now, but I thought I should share this anyway. It's a live stream of BP attempting to plug the Gulf oil spill. As I type this, they are doing something strange with strange machines. I have no idea what they are doing, but it looks complicated.

I couldn't get the video to work with Firefox for some reason, but it works just fine with Internet Explorer.

Uh, I got this

Then I typed in my name in its entirety and got this.

I'm a guy.

[QUOTE="Turtlecream"]I think forming beliefs, even partly, based on arguments with strangers over the internet is just as silly.markop2003

That's true. It should be primarily instead of even partly, but that's how I feel.

so my question to you tc is just where do you stand now that you've listened to or read through these debates? have you changed your belief due to some intellectual analysis or debate on whether if God exists or not, and if so what God you should put your faith into?

zmbi_gmr

I am not sure yet.

I think it's more logical to believe in a deistic God (a God that created everything and then left it to its natural order). I think John Lennox put forth some exceptional arguments for supporting the Christian God, while Richard Dawkins, as an example, pointed out possible absurdities.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] why would you think their beliefs/arguments aren't worthy of altering or solidifying a viewpoint?Jandurin

I don't even know why I should response to this because it seems so obvious, but: because a stranger may be a 14-year-old child who may be parroting whatever their parents are telling them. It is far more logical to listen to renowned professors instead of hoping that they are typing on the GameSpot forums.

I think it's more odd to make assumptions based upon limited information.

You are automatically assuming that, because I do not enjoy arguing with random strangers over the Internet about complicated topics such as God, that I do not respect the Internet. The Internet is the primary reason why this time period is called the Information Age.

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Seems like it... He asks for debates, but then post his own and discusses how fantastic and free they are...

Buttons1990

I do not own any of the debates and I do not recall ever asking for anything. I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Right at the end of your post:

"I am also open to additional sources that anyone else may like to offer."

And if that isn't asking for more debates or asking for discussion here, then what is the point of this thread? If you don't want anything from here, then the only other thing you are doing is advertising those sites...?

Having an open mind to consider suggestions has nothing to do with asking for anything. Surely you understand the difference.

Also, I don't know why a person should be unable post something on these forums unless they are specifically asking a question or for more discussion. There are plenty of posts with discussion that only have a link to a news article with the purpose being to make that topic apparent. This is no different.

Perhaps you should go to those posts and claim they have no point, that they should ask a question, specifically write, "I want to talk about this article that I am linking," and that they should stop advertising for CNN, Fox News, or wherever they are getting the information from.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] why would you think their beliefs/arguments aren't worthy of altering or solidifying a viewpoint?Silenthps

I don't even know why I should response to this because it seems so obvious, but: because a stranger may be a 14-year-old child who may be parroting whatever their parents are telling them. It is far more logical to listen to renowned professors instead of hoping that they are typing on the GameSpot forums.

I think Dawkins and Hitchens are geniuses.

You should watch some debates with William Lane Craig. He's muuuch better than D'souzaSilenthps

I'll look into it.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]is this some sort of weird advertising?Buttons1990

Seems like it... He asks for debates, but then post his own and discusses how fantastic and free they are...

I do not own any of the debates and I do not recall ever asking for anything. I don't think you know what you're talking about.