Your paragraph on BALANCE was very odd. Halo is perfect balance, anyone can survive with even a Needler or a Covenant Carbine, but you can't survive in CoD with the standard assault rifle when faced against a HIGHLY MODIFIED, increased rate of fire, less recoil, new scope, Mini-Gun/Machinegun combo.

digi_matrix

No offense, but you pretty much nullified the rest of your argument when you said you can't survive with the basic assault rifle. The m16 is the one gun that has the most calls to be nerfed - go check the official forums.

The m16 is the one gun that has an absolutely perfect accurate burst, modified rifle or not. One burst to anywhere on the body will take down anyone not using juggernaut - but it's easy to get headshots with it anyway. Plus you get the grenade launcher automatically without having to level up. It's probably the most powerful incarnation of the m16 in any MP game I've encountered, and it's there for you right from the start.

It seems that they put it there so even the person playing online for the first time has a fine chance at succeeding. Accurate + high power + noob toob doesn't in any way shape, or form come close to "but you can't even survive."

The basis MP5 package is also very workable for the stealth minded player.

[QUOTE="Uncle_Tbag"]You're being quite disingenuous, in place of a good retort I suppose.

I didn't name any specific coutries, but when YOU say "poor countries," it's a given that for many of their residents, gaming is just about last on the list of priorities. (Or is gaming what people do in between rounds of ethnic cleansing in Croatia)? It's also a given that those who can afford this luxury, it's via pirated software and net cafes.UpInFlames

It was a good, humorous retort because you haven't got a clue what you're talking about (as further evidenced in this post). Also, I said poorer countries and since we're talking about gaming, it's obvious that I wasn't talking about heavily poverty stricken countries, but rather developing ones.

No, it wasn't funny. It would have been several years ago, maybe. The faux self-deprication is pretty played out. What was funny is you quoting my post before deleting it so it still shows up. Brilliant. And an abuse of your duties, but whatever. You're rowing a sinking ship, why should you care?

Where have I made it obvious I "haven't got a clue what I'm talking about?" PC tech? I'm sure standards are different here and in third-world cultures, so don't use your 80's norms to misjudge mine.

These days PC's aren't a luxury, they're pretty much a necessity. A lot of people who can't afford console gaming use PC's as gaming machines.

THat's rigt; we have three of them in my house. Only one is specced for games. And the ratio is even less when it comes to gaming vs. non-gaming PCs. When you "need" a PC, you don't need a gaming GPU. A VAST majority of PCs are sold with something like the intel GMA 950, which is simply there to get a signal to your screen, not to game on. You can get a Wii, a 360 Arcade, or even a Pro for the cost of a modern GPU and some extra ram, depending on where your standards lie, of course.

Well, I've already wasted enough time on you guys. I have a rule against posting here on my free time. Off for a frap and some CoD4. Have fun with your . . . rat meat was it? ;) j/k

WTF?

Whoever decided to make electric power an issue is getting awfully desparate in their argument to show PC gaming as being too expensive. Hey people, have you guys seen the mini-power plantsthat come with the X360?:roll: While I haven't seen the power supply for the PS3, I'm sure its not much smaller.

MarcusAntonius

WTF?

The person who just made the above post didn't pay enought attention to realize the power argument wasn't made in an attempt to show PC gaming is too expensive.

You really don't help the quality of discussion in GGD (shame, as it's slipping again) when you make these insults without taking the time to read and/or understand what you're insulting.

[QUOTE="Oilers99"][QUOTE="MatthewX"]

[QUOTE="1005"]lmao half the games listed as unsuitable shouldn't be sold to kids anyway as they are 17+ so why the author thought it worth his time making that article is beyond me.MatthewX

Read the whole post again...maybe then you'll see why I made it. I never said that kids should be playing those games; I said that there is no reason to single those games out games by saying that "they shouldn't be played." Parents are fully capable of deciding what is and is not suitable for their kids.

...That's assuming the parents know what they're talking about, which in many cases, they don't.

"we know that you are too stupid to acknowledge that M-rating and the list of content next to that rating so here is a little easy- to-read list for ya." *pats them on head*

You're treating the ESRB as is they're infallible and that's where you're argument really goes astray. It's not safe to assume the M rating means for god's sakekeep your kids away and the T rating means everything is a-okay. That lumps Halo and Mass Effect - two games I'd have no problems letting my kids play once they hit 10 years old or so - with Manhunt 2 or GTA - which I wouldn't let any child near.

It's a bit off to put so much faith in the rating system and then act so condescendingly towards anyone who doesn't trust it implicitly. *pats you on the head.* Any parent who wants to let their kid play M rated games yet still maintain responsibility needs to either play the game themselves or read some reviews to see exactly why the game is rated as such.

i never said anything about a peice of garbage pc for that price. i am talking mid range stuff that can play CURRENT games onth acceptable settings. 1-1.4k is way too much to spend for a system that will play today's games and those in the next two years. like i said, mine was a peice of crap $400 system that came with all the extras i needed, i dropped in ram and a video card and it will play pretty much everything i throw at it provided i dont crank the settings way up. mid range my friend, mid range.

OneWingedAngeI

Right, what vpu is this exactly that takes everything you can throw at it? And it's probably not running a very modern cpu for a 400 system. I'm sure the mobo isn't too hot either. You don't seem to know the value of a quality PSU for instance. With a modern GPU, you'll really need to spend at least 70 for a good PSU - that's almost a fourth of your 400 budget. NOt trying to bash your pc, just saying that 400 isn't sufficient for the basis of a good quality gaming PC. People who say these things look at cpu and gpu and forget all of the other components that should be qualtiy as well/

I don't think you're knowledge of PC is that robust to be able to say what price is and isn't too much. I spent around that much and it's lasted me for five years (plus gpu and cpu unpgrade) and it will play crysis on medium at 1680x1050. That was a good investement that lasted. If I had spend 400-600 the rig would be useless for games by now.

[QUOTE="Uncle_Tbag"]what it take to build a quality PC and it sure isn't $400-600. OneWingedAngeI

it surely is that amount of money for an adequate pc. you dont need to play every game with max settings. and learn to buy last year's cutting edge stuff, you will get so much for your money. at one point i bought a piece of garbage $400 pc and put a $100 previous year graphic card in it and an extra gig of ram, and it ran everything i wanted to play well enough.

That's the same as saying "I paid 139.99 for a PS2 and it plays all the games I want to play well enough." Most people who go out and buy or build a new PC don't want a "piece of garbage" or one that won't play most of the major titles that came out in the last 2 years.

bottom line? i pay about the same to game on my pc as i do on any of my consoles. don't forget, consoles also have $60 control pads and stuff you need to buy also. people cite pc reliability but take a look at my 4th xbox 360. you are right about both sides exaggerating, but it really doesn't cost more to game on pc or console if you aren't looking for a top notch pc.

owa

You're making it out to be either "piece of garbage" or top of the line. It doesn't work that way. You can build a just sub top of the line PC for 1-1.4K that will play the newest games and will last for years. This pc also won't give you problems because of a cheap PSU, Ram, and Mobo. Most people don't consider the quality of those parts when putting together a system and that's a big mistake. I put together over 20 PCs for a local medical clinic last year and I wouldn't skimp on those parts because it would mean more breakdowns and more time for me spent on maintenance. So far I've only had to replace one case outtake fan and one PSU because I convinced them quality parts were important.

You don't need control pads, gaming wheels or other peripherals for a PC? I guess you don't, but that limits the kind of games you get to play. Have fun playing gtr4 or live for speed with a keyboard, or basically anything that isn't the traditional PC game. It actually costs more if you want to use the best pad on the market (360) due to the $20 adapter you'll need.

Most gamers also want a nice KB/mouse combo, which is usually around $60 or so. I initially bought a cheapo combo for my last build and it royally sucked, not just for gaming but for everything.

[QUOTE="smerlus"]Piracy?UpInFlames

It's a factor, sure, but what I was getting at is that PC gaming is the most cost-effective. First off, it's a multi-purpose machine that can be used for work, school, and entertainment and people generally have an easier time justifying a PC purchase rather than a console which is still viewed as a toy. Hardware prices aren't anywhere near as high as most people claim, you can get a very good PC for a small amount of cash and most PC gamers won't start pulling their hair out if the can't max out every game that comes out. Also, PC games are a lot cheaper than console games (this is especially true in Europe), their prices fall a lot faster and generally they offer a lot more lasting value. Piracy is a factor, but let's not pretend as if piracy doesn't affect console gaming as well.

In most of these poorer countries you speak of, a majority of gamers cant afford to pay for the electricity to run a pc, let alone the cost of building a machine and paying for the OS and software.

The popularity of PC in countries like China and S. Korea is hugely boosted by the popularity of internet cafes. People see stats like 50% of all youth play SC in S Korea and assume they all own PCs, which is far from the truth.

Their are exaggerations told on both side of the fanboy divide. One side claims a gaming PC cost 5k, the other side claims we can all have super-duper gaming rigs for $400. Neither is true. The latter always leave out OS, kb/mouse, speakers or heaphones, soundcard, and pick some cheap-*** case that would embarass your grandma and includes a PSU that's going to start smoking the first time you plug it in. Plus speccing 2gb of the cheapest possible ram that has about a 50% chance of passing one pass of memtest.

I know what it take to build a quality PC and it sure isn't $400-600. I built mine in 2002 and have put about 450 in upgrades since then, monitors not included. That's what it costs for a nice case ala lian-li, plus a quality psu, mobo, ram, and OS. Yes we all have to pay for an OS at least once unless we stoop to piracy.

The software price gap is also exagerrated. You can't buy or sell used PC games, not at the local shop and not at all reliably from ebay.

[QUOTE="Uncle_Tbag"][QUOTE="xboxdudeman800"][QUOTE="Uncle_Tbag"]

I don't know which is more shocking, the sudden departure of Jeff or the willingness of so many people to go batsh|t crazy over a story that is still 99% speculation.

The word of someone with the screen-name of "gamespot" is absolute gosphel - is it that particular screen name that engenders such unquestioned trust?

Some moderation is deserved here. You should be preparing to leave, preparing to "burn it down," not doing so before any of this has played out and the facts are actually revealed.

lol at all the people with under 10 posts saying they'll be leaving forever. *sniff* What a loss . . .

Firelore29

99% speculation? this story has been confirmed by numerous sites.

And you do know people come to gamespot for other things than forums... (use your brain when posting)

The only confirmation is that there are rumors. Stories of rumors abour rumors and more rumors.

Of course people who aren't familiar with GS forums RUSH to make an account to announce their canceling their accounts. Not likely. These are people that want the ability to save face when theyre back here tomorrow posting as usual.

You don't have an iota of proof the rumors of payoffs are true yet post it in your sig like that. Reallly immature and intellectually dishonest.

Here this is 100% confirmed by 1up.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164656

Quote: The short of it, confirmed through our own sources: Gerstmann was fired for his negative review of Eidos Interactive's Kane & Lynch

If you want to take that as 100%, from a direct competitor, from a story that offers zero additional evidence other that "anonymous sources," feel free to do so. I think they're rather happy over the whole mess, seeing as they've traditionally had far, far less credibility than GS. This is a big win for them, and to come out with secret sources, the name of which we will never know, is 100% proof of nothing.