Okay, im gonna beat down the myth that MGS is not a system seller.

First, lets look at sales and the game's postion in sales:

MGS1 6.6 mill 7th highest selling game on the ps1

MGS2 7 mill 6th highest selling game on the ps2. The 5 games that beat it were 3 GTAs and the 2 GTs. Everyone knows what juggernauts they are and being second to them is quite a feet.

MGS3 3.7 mill 9th highest selling game on the ps2.

Take in mind that anything that sells over 500,000 copies is considered a hit.

Okay, so every MGS game has been in the top ten of best selling on its respective console. Now lets look at scores, Im not including any of the re-releases:

Gamespot 8.5 Gamerankings 92.7%

Gamespot 9.6 Gamerankings 94.9%

Gamespot 8.7 Gamrerankings 91.6%

Now, lets talk about the sales and scores combined. As you can see, the sales kind of reflect the scores. MGS2 had the highest, with MGS3 the lowest.

MGS1: This was a revolutionary game. Never before had voice acting, story, graphics, gameplay, and a musical score come to blend so perfectly in a videogame. Most people call it one of the best games of all time. IGN called it the best PS1 game. It is on the top 100 games of all time on numerous sites. Even System Wars polled it as the best game of the ps1/n64 era(It would be awesome if someone gave me the link) It was critisized for its short length though.

MGS2: Another revolutionary game. It was THE first game of the generation to feature such brilliant graphics. It refined the gameplay of MGS1 and introduced numerous things. Critics hailed it as a reason to get the ps2.

MGS3: Even though it was a great game it was by no means revolutionary. It introduced new things but pretty much all the new features except CQC were critisized. The graphics were great but by no means ahead of the rest of the pack.

Okay now, lets talk hype.

MGS1 was hyped a lot. Everyone was going crazy for it.

MGS2 was hyped like crazy, it was always the showcase of the floor. It was first next gen game to show such amazing graphics.

MGS3 had barely no hype at all. It was late in the ps2s gen and wasnt doing much new. It wasnt revolutionary.

MGS4 is recieving crazy hype. Every single gameshow its on, it steals the floor. Magazines keep touting it. You know how much free publicity this game gets just because of the "will this be ported to 360" debate. MGS4 has BY FAR recieved the most hype out of all MGS games.

You might have noticed a pattern above, more hype more sales(duh). So MGS4 will sell.

Honestly, how many times have you heard, Im buying a ps3 for mgs4, ill buy a ps3 around the time mgs4 comes out, only reason I want a ps3 is for MGS4. Ive heard it hundreds of times.

Not only that, but MGS4 has been somewhat casualized to appeal to a broader market.

Also remember MGS2 moved over 2 mill copies when ps2 sales were still below 10 milland by the end moved 7 mill(thats a lot)

And now the System Seller debate. MGS2 moved ps2s. It gave it a boost in the beginning to get it started. Gears of War moved 360s, didnt it sell like 2 mill 360s?

MGS4 will do the same that GEOW and MGS2 did for the 360 and ps2.

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Umm, now I hate to say this but physical appearance has a lot do with the aura or vibe you give out. Ive seen people completely go out of their way to help hot chicks and then completely ignore the ugly ones. Society is kind of screwed up like that and even though I hate myself for it, I tend to do that too. So, basically just get a good haircut, stay clean, acne treatment if you need any, contacts against glasses.

Also, if its possible start working out. I dont know if your skinny or fat but just start. I recommend you to join forum.bodybuilding.com . People there are very helpful and if you want to take up weightlifting, its all you need for advice. PM me if you decide to join. Since I started lifting, people(both guys and girls) respect me a whole lot more.

Also, be nice to everyone. Dont believe the stupid movies that the media throws out that all the popular kids are jerks or something in school. From my experience, there usually really nice. Be nice to everyone, no matter how low you think they are.

And you have to get rid of depression. Look into whats causing you to be depressed, and eliminate it. Weightlifting helps with that too.

And dont be creepy.

blackldragon

Well I'm not fat but not skinny either more like average with a light pudgy stomech but I have a huge shoulder width. Really I have the perfect body for body building, and I used to lift weights, but I stoped. I've heard alot of girls call me cute or not bad looking before, yet I still think they might be lieing. And I'm nice to everyone hell I filled up this person who I don't really know alot gas up full even though they said they only need about 10 dollers worth. I'm 100% against discrimination so I will help out anyone once they ask or I feel like doing something nice unoticed.

And I do have this one girl who likes me however she's slightly retarded and has 2 girlfriends and a boyfriend. I swear I always get the strange ones. Except for two one of which I really wish I went for and the other I thought that she would be better off with someone else.

I know why I'm depressed I've always knew its because I don't feel like I belong anywhere at all.

It's not that I'm creepy its more like they think I might kill them. I've heard several remarks with people saying they think I'm about to kill somebody.

If they think your about to kill someone, they think your creepy. Do you wear dark gothic clothing or something cause that gives everyone a really bad vibe. Start wearing something along the lines of AE, A n F or something. Also smile a lot. And if people mess with you, dont take anything. Thats very important, if you dont do anything react to insults or physical abuse, they will keep going on. And about how old are you? And dont be too nice, theres a line between being a good guy and being a tool. Also, if you feel you dont belong, find people that are similar to you and if you cant, just try to fit in but not to some extent you become completely fake. I still highly recommend weightlifting, gets you looking better, people respect you more, you can make weightlifting buddies, and it relieves stress and depression to some extent. It also disciplines you if you do it right.

You know what you should do? Starting tomorrow, go up to random people and just talk to them. See their reaction and how they see you, if they want to talk to you or not. Just keep doing this, you can only get better and since these people are random and youll never see them again, it doesnt matter at all does it?

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6) I feel like there is no reason for me to help anyone because majority of the people don't show kindness to strangers. And people give me evil glances or if a girl is smiling and sees me they tend to change to a (attutide type) face.

7) I prefer to be alone, but I still yearn to be apart of something.

9) I think that I only have a few years left before I may finally lose my grip on reality.

blackldragon

It kind of depends on the aura you give out. If you slouch and dont carry yourself well, people will think you dont respect yourself. Same with if your not in good shape, clothes or hygiene. You have to respect yourself before others respect you.

Hmm since you seem to be on the same page with aura, how would you suppose that I change this evil aura thats been looming over me a good while now. Most people think I'm either depressed or pissed off because of it, yet when I see too many people I tend to revert back to that aura.

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I have no real problems.. that's my problem.

Edit: What I mean by that.. is theres no challenge thus far in my life. It's easier than eating cake.

Agriath

That's a bit of a comfortable problem. I hate to sound like I'm complaining, but I'd rather have that than my family problems.

True, I must say it isn't something I'd like change but some adversity would do me good as when I leave my parents house into the real world I'm sure there will be plenty of it.

Well then if no one is challenging you, you're just going to have to challenge yourself.

Yeah, seems like that's what I'll need to do. Just need to motivate myself and decide what to challenge myself with.

Hey if your an artist then try to make something that you may consider a master piece.

Just remebered one more problem that I have NOTE ANY RELIGOUS PERSON DO NOT READ YOUVE BEEN WARNED

I harber a slight hatred towards god sometimeseven more then satan. In all honesty, I catch myself thinking about killing both god and the devil.

Umm, now I hate to say this but physical appearance has a lot do with the aura or vibe you give out. Ive seen people completely go out of their way to help hot chicks and then completely ignore the ugly ones. Society is kind of screwed up like that and even though I hate myself for it, I tend to do that too. So, basically just get a good haircut, stay clean, acne treatment if you need any, contacts against glasses.

Also, if its possible start working out. I dont know if your skinny or fat but just start. I recommend you to join forum.bodybuilding.com . People there are very helpful and if you want to take up weightlifting, its all you need for advice. PM me if you decide to join. Since I started lifting, people(both guys and girls) respect me a whole lot more.

Also, be nice to everyone. Dont believe the stupid movies that the media throws out that all the popular kids are jerks or something in school. From my experience, there usually really nice. Be nice to everyone, no matter how low you think they are.

And you have to get rid of depression. Look into whats causing you to be depressed, and eliminate it. Weightlifting helps with that too.

And dont be creepy.

[QUOTE="blackldragon"]

6) I feel like there is no reason for me to help anyone because majority of the people don't show kindness to strangers. And people give me evil glances or if a girl is smiling and sees me they tend to change to a (attutide type) face.

7) I prefer to be alone, but I still yearn to be apart of something.

9) I think that I only have a few years left before I may finally lose my grip on reality.

camreeno360

It kind of depends on the aura you give out. If you slouch and dont carry yourself well, people will think you dont respect yourself. Same with if your not in good shape, clothes or hygiene. You have to respect yourself before others respect you.

Im kind of a preppy kid at school and hate my lunchtable. The kids I sit it with, I used to like but now I just get embarassed when I sit with them and ppl give me the look of "what the ef u doing with them". I mean theyre cool, one of thems a good friend of mine but now he skips school so much so I cant even hang with him and my other friend is annoying me. How do I change tables without coming off as a penis Ive been sitting at a diff table like 2 times a week but I want to make it permanent but I dont want to come off as an ahole doing it.

Also, Im really really competitive. I always want to be better than others at everything.

And oh yeah, Ive never had a gf even though I know a lot of girls have liked me. I think im too big of a pansy to ask a chick out. And another thing that hinders me, is that my standards are really really really high...

Well you see. Xenogears is very... Very... VERY complex. About 50% of everything they talk you don't understand and probably never will.Cedmln

Nah, Im pretty sure I could understand the story but I just cant get into it....

Should I buy them?

Which one is better