I was at blockbuster it was like 10:30 and i wanted a new game. They were rented out of everything. They had modern warfare 2 for sale. I would have rathered buy ass creed 2, but i bought it. Should i open it? I'm not a huge first person shooter fan but i don't know. I needed a fix.

the 360 has Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake coming that i know of. Feel free to add to this list. What does the ps3 have? Wii?

[QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]So he might have done that with his console? So what? How many here have downloaded music/movies/programs/ect for free? Its something we do and take a chance on getting caught every time. I dont know anyone who hasnt done something so why condem the TC??Paynee

He comes on the internet to profess his innocence that's why. He's really just upset because an invisible hand came thru the internet and shut him down.

I am innocent that's why. I'm upset I have a useless xbox and did nothing wrong. I'm actually telling the truth that's why....... I realize you think i'm making this up but i'm really not dude.

TC is an idiot for not reading the Terms of Service YOU accepted and YOU agreed to when you signed up for an Xbox Live account.

Let me put it infront of you...

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/LiveTOU.htm

This contract covers your use of the Xbox LIVE and Games for Windows LIVE interactive services, and governsany other related services for which you choose to sign up (for example, specific game subscriptions), content, and other media (for example, items downloaded from Xbox LIVE Marketplace or Games for Windows LIVE Marketplaceand their successors)), software, machines, support, papers, updates, or upgrades. We refer to all of these as the "Service" and, except where context requires otherwise and even if not expressly referenced in the applicable section, "Service" includes any "Other Items" (defined in Section8(a)) that you may have obtained access to through or in relation to other aspects of the Service. To avoid any confusion, when you register to use the Service, you are registering for both the Xbox LIVE service sand the Games for Windows LIVE service s.

The Service is offered to you conditioned on your acceptance of all terms in this contract. By selecting "ACCEPT" below, you are representing that you are 18 years old (and have reached the "age of majority" if that is not 18 years of age where you live) and you are attaching your electronic signature to and agreeing to all terms in this contract. In addition, if you were a party to a prior version of this contract, that version may have stated that the contract can only be updated on 30 days' notice. By selecting "ACCEPT" below, you are also agreeing to waive the applicability of this notice requirement. If you do not agree to this contract, in its entirety, or if you were a party to a prior version of this contract and do not agree to waive the notice requirement, you must select "DECLINE" and discontinue your registration, and you will have no right to use the Service. glesniak

further into the TOS......

• use the Service or related hardware to design, develop, or update unauthorized software;
• use or distribute unauthorized cheats, macros, or scripts; or
• exploit a bug, or make an unauthorized modification, to any software or data to gain unfair advantage in a game , contest, or promotion.

then under ch 11

In order to operate and provide the Service, we collect certain information about you. We use and protect that information as described in the Microsoft Online Privacy Notice (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=81184 ,and its successors). In particular, we may access or disclose information about you, including the content of your communications, in order to: (a)comply with the law or respond to lawful requests or legal process; (b)protect the rights or property of Microsoft or our customers, including the enforcement of our agreements or policies governing your use of the Service; or (c)act on a good faith belief that such access or disclosure is necessary to protect the personal safety of Microsoft employees, customers, or the public.

To provide you the Service, we may collect certain information about Service performance, your machine, and your Service use. We may automatically upload this information from your machine. Such data may include console hardware and operating performance data, and network performance and service quality data. Any software or hardware errors, which may occur while you are connected to Xbox Live or offline, may be uploaded and reported. All such data may be stored with the console's unique identifier, and may be associated with other personally identifiable information. You may read about this data collection in more detail in the Microsoft Online Privacy Notice athttp://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=81184 .

under ch 12

You may not copy, download, modify or create derivative works, publish, transmit, sell or attempt to sell or transfer, or otherwise use or exploit any software unless we or our suppliers have expressly allowed you to do so.

We may automatically check your version of the software. We may automatically download upgrades to the software to your computer or console to update, enhance, and further develop the Service.

under ch 16 - service agreememt

You agree that you are using only authorized software and hardware to access the Service, that your software and hardware have not been modified in any unauthorized way (e.g., through unauthorized repairs, unauthorized upgrades, or unauthorized downloads), and that we have the right to send data , applications or other content to any software or hardware that you are using to access the Service for the express purpose of detecting an unauthorized modification. Any attempt to disassemble, decompile, create derivative works of, reverse engineer, modify, further sublicense, distribute, or use for other purposes the Service, any game , application, or other content available or accessible through the Service, or any hardware or software associated with the Service or with an original Xbox or Xbox 360 console is strictly prohibited and may result in cancellation of your account and/or your ability to access the Service, and the pursuit of other legal remedies by Microsoft. Microsoft may take any legal action it deems appropriate against users who violate Microsoft's systems or network security ,this contract or any additional terms incorporated or referenced in this contract, and such users may also incur criminal or civil liability.

Microsoft reserves complete and sole discretion with respect to the operation of the Service. Microsoft may, among other things: (a)restrict or limit access to the Service; (b)retrieve information from the original Xbox, Xbox 360 console, personal computer, and any connected peripheral device used to log onto the Service as necessary to operate and protect the security of the Service, and to enforce this contract; and (c)upgrade, modify, withdraw, suspend, or discontinue any functionality or feature of the Service, any game or other content available or accessible through the Service, or any hardware or software associated with the Service or with an original Xbox or Xbox 360 console, or personal computer, from time to time without notice, which may involve the automatic download of related software directly to your original Xbox, Xbox 360 console, or personal computer, including software that prevents you from accessing the Service, playing pirated games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices.

You got straight up busted and I don't feel sorry for you one bit. Hope you feel good TC for essentially getting owned so bad in your own thread. You agreed to th TOS when you created your online name and there isnt ANYTHING illegal to a contract YOU agreed upon.

Good night

Where did I get owned. Like i said I havent modded my console. Are people really this stupid?

If you reply to this thread I have every right to kick the living **** out of you. If you reply you have therefore agreed. please refer to my terms of service.

So by your logic if you reply i can therefore go to you house and kick the **** out of you by law.

You worked for security and you didn't delete your account before you sold your X360? (Or at least you failed to mention that you covered that part, which is still bad for a security person) LAMOmagicalclick

Do people just assume things? When did I say i didnt delete my account. I have a new xbox and account. How about reading and not putting words in peoples mouths. Speaking of lame. This is the problem with stupid people right here. you are a tool man. Do you even realize it?

so now you are accusing me of lying man? Come to my house and look at my xbox. you are as bad as they are.

Just to clarify, and to be honest, I did not read every single word of every post in this thread, but am I correct in assuming that you bought a third party HDD, tc ?dukerav

No I didnt. I said I had an xbox for 2 years never had any issue. I traded in my xbox and got a ps3. I didnt like the ps3. I returned it and got a different xbox. I havent done anything to this xbox. It may have been tampered with before i bought it i have no idea. MS can look up my account and see i never had any issues until i got this console.

As far as suing ms. I said the same thing. It's not worth it. I wouldnt sue them. I'm aware their legal department is their biggest department because they are what i'm saying they are. If i had a legal department as big as them sure maybe id have a case and be able to win. MS wins dude because they have the resources and power and some dude that is out $300 because they **** up isn't a concern to them. That's the problem.

I could go to a lawyer. Show them my receipt. Show them all my games and that they are legit and maybe get unbanned after going through a lengthy process for what $300? It would cost 1000 times as much time and money to get it back then it is worth it. What lawyer is even going to take my case? Do you have any idea how hard it is to get to microsoft? I called them. You sit on hold for hours and their legal department is a po box. They make it that way for a reason.

The TC is a LIAR. They're always a reason when you get console banned...and they e-mail you with that reason.

He pretends to be innocent, but he's not.

Paynee

I actually am telling the truth man. Why woudl i pretend? That in itself is lame assuming that i'm lying when i'm really telling the truth.

As far as the guy who say what microsoft isn't illegal. Trust me I understand this stuff. When you sign up for their service you agree to their terms of use so you are technically in their house and they make the rules. It's the equivalient of me posting a sign outside my house and if you enter i can do whatever i want to you. The problem is if you buy an xbox and want to update your games you really have no choice. Live is the only service available to do that. If there was another option or network i could join that would be great but there isn't. MS is anticompetitive and controls their stuff. I understand what youa re saying. I just think there are problems with that for the reasons i've stated. I also think it's sketchy and there is a fine like where they actually came into my network and started disabling features on my hardware. That close to tampering. Yeah i could just block them if i dont agree and not sign into their service if i dont want them tampering with my hardware but like i said MS has you cornered for the reasons i said.

My only option if i dont want MS making the rules is to just not buy an xbox or go out and make my own console. Which is ridiculous. The PC market is being phased out as far as games for this reason. MS has gotten into the console market because thats where they want things ultimately. your word processing, everything will be this way someday if we keep going at this rate. That's my only concern. MS becomes the law and its to protect their empire and how they see fit. When they aren't the law.