Seriously I was / still am really looking forward to that game.

Anyone know what happened to it?

But if you are using component hook-ups do we still get a HD qaulity? Despite the fact we aren't using VGA or HDMI!R0SSMATHIS

Yes absolutly.

Here is a great little article that everyone should take 10 minutes to read about what each system has to offer in a straight-forward manner.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/the-state-of-hd-dvd/the-state-of-hd-dvd-330684.php

When I compared Warner's Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix discs, the Blu-ray edition in a PS3 and the HD DVD in an Xbox 360, the differences were startling. Never mind that the HD DVD has an entire online component that the Blu-ray can't yet implement, with features such as mobile downloads and user-organized live screenings. Never mind that you could watch the entire HD DVD with pop-up actor-commentary windows on screen-if Warner had implemented this in the Harry Potter Blu-ray, it would have been compatible with exactly one currently shipping Blu-ray player.

The surprising thing was, even when you compared the exact same experiences, the HD DVD behaved much better. Every so often an icon appears in the top left corner of the screen, indicating a behind-the-scenes featurette about that particular scene. On the HD DVD, you click it, watch what you want to, then click Enter again to return to the point you left off in the main movie. With the Blu-ray, the system had no way of returning you to the movie; it could only dump you in the featurette menu, where you were stuck watching more of those. Sure, these problems could be Warner's programmers, and not a format issue, but Warner is going for as similar an experience on both, and it clearly can't do everything on Blu-ray that it can on HD DVD. Just have a look at the back of each disc.

Blu-ray has specifications for picture-in-picture, but to date, only one Blu-ray player that has shipped, the Panasonic DMP-BD30, will be able to handle the discs when they start making their way to stores in early 2008. Except for some rumblings from Daewoo, nobody has promised an internet-connected Blu-ray player, while all HD DVD players can.

Seems Toy's R Us, Best Buy and Amazon have discounted the 360 HD-DVD addon.

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2538552

It still comes with King Kong, and qualifies for the 5 free movies

My understanding was it will consist of most US content

(click movies, TV, etc for the listings)

http://www.achieve360points.com/live/all

http://www.pr-inside.com/k-games-releases-downloadable-content-and-r331251.htm

2K Games, a publishing label of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTWO), announced today that BioShock, its top-rated title exclusively available for the Xbox
360(R) video game and entertainment system from Microsoft and Games for Windows(R), has released new downloadable content for players on both platforms. The content includes new Plasmids and Tonics, achievements and interface upgrades, and is now available as free downloadable content from Xbox LIVE(R) Marketplace, through an Xbox 360 Title Update, and as part of a PC patch.

"As one of the highest rated games of the year, we wanted to continue to connect with the fans that made BioShock such an overwhelming retail and critically-acclaimed hit," said Christoph Hartmann, President of 2K. "We are excited to offer new downloadable content that will extend and enhance the replay value of this title."

New downloadable content includes:

Four Plasmids and Gene Tonics:

-- Sonic Boom: Hurls creatures and objects back with a blast of force

-- EVE saver: Enables Plasmids to use less EVE

-- Vending Expert: Reduces prices in the vending machines

-- Machine Buster: Increases the amount of damage players deal to cameras, bots and turrets

Achievements (exclusive to Xbox 360):

-- Xbox 360 players can gain 100 points for "Brass Balls," by beating BioShock on the "hard" difficulty setting without dying

In response to gamers' requests and feedback from the Cult of Rapture (www.CultofRapture.com) community forums, fans of BioShock now have a widescreen option, granting a wider horizontal field of vision, as well as additional enhancements to the game. The Xbox 360 Title Update will be automatically applied at the game's startup when users log into Xbox LIVE. PC owners can access both the additional content and gameplay improvements via a downloadable patch, available at www.2Kgames.com/bioshock/support.

Developed by 2K Boston and 2K Australia and rated M for Mature, BioShock is a "genetically enhanced" first-person shooter that lets players do things never before possible in the genre. Gamers enter the game as a castaway in Rapture, a decaying art deco underwater utopia torn apart by civil war. Caught between powerful forces and hunted down by genetically modified "splicers" and deadly security systems, players have to come to grips with a deadly, mysterious world filled with powerful technology, fascinating characters and morality defining choices. To make it to the end, players can turn everything they encounter into a weapon, biologically modify their body with Plasmids, hack devices and security systems, upgrade weapons, craft new ammo variants, and experiment with different battle techniques. No encounter ever plays out the same and no two gamers will play BioShock the same way.

For more information on the game, please visit www.2Kgames.com/bioshock.

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/12/04/video-marketplace-to-hit-canada-europe-next-week

Microsoft will allow gamers in the UK to buy films through its Xbox 360 console from next Tuesday, as the console moves to compete directly with everything from television to online download stores.

Films including the Matrix, the Harry Potter series and Ocean's 11 will be available after Xbox 360 becomes the first games console to offer a video-on-demand service, Live Marketplace Video Store, that will includes 40 popular film titles in standard and high definition in six countries.

Users pay between £2 and £4.50 for each film and have two weeks to watch the movie after download. The service will also roll out in Canada, Ireland, France and Germany after it launched in the US in November last year.

Microsoft wants to use its Xbox services to break into the increasing market for film downloads in Europe, predicted to be worth as much as ?350m by 2012.

About 60% of Xbox users already go online through Xbox Live to download games and music videos and play web-based games with other players.

"In around five years we've sold 8m live subscriptions globally, and the social networking activity delivered through TV screens is a major part of this next phase.

"We'll have a variety of family-led propositions, controls and broader content that will appeal more to families," said Robin Burrowes, the Xbox Live UK marketing manager.

"The key proposition is built around choice, which will grow over time. We believe that this is a convenient opportunity for people, because their card details can be stored in the Xbox so they can download instantly."

Burrowes added that the service would appeal to Xbox users who often multitask, using instant messenger or email at the same time as watching or listening to content.

Microsoft also announced a range of what it described as "unparalleled parental controls" that allow parents to cap usage and content types on the Xbox in a system that dovetails with similar media settings on Microsoft's new operating system, Vista.

Data compiled by vgchartz.com indicates that there are 1.6m Xbox consoles in the UK, which would give Microsoft a healthy market to build on as a download distribution platform.

[QUOTE="BiAPiston"]How could you not include Gears of Warctfvyrsgurbnorn

Actually I didn't include Gears it because it's been out over a year and I was curious about these.

But "First vs. Third" person view should not really be an issue...it's just a perspective.

Take GRAW for example where you can change that view on the fly...what does that make GRAW?

Also I did not include Bioshock because it doesn't have Multi-player.

Both are excellent but since you can only get one at the moment I would say best bang for your buck would be:

Oblivion: Game of the Year edition. It includes the extra content that was released (Nights of the Nine and Shivering Isles) and you can probably pick up a used copy for even less.

Then 200+ hours of game-play later when you've done everything go get a used copy of Mass Effect.

Wow. I thought this was going to be a lot closer but CoD4 with 54% has it...